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THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER OF THE COMMUNITY IMPACT ADVISORY.
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COMMUNITY IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, REGULAR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024. IT IS 7:57 P.M. WE ARE MEETING IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS HERE AT THE CITY HALL OF MAYNARD, TEXAS ON ECCLESTON STREET. PRESENT TONIGHT ARE STAFF AND WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER WHO IS COMING BACK TO THE DAIS HERE MOMENTARILY. AND WITH THAT GOOD EVENING, STAFF. YOU HAVE TO GO TO YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THE CONSENT. OH, I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO GO READ, I APOLOGIZE. YEAH, I HAVE A I HAVE A SCRIPT TO FOLLOW. I'M JUST GOING OFF OF THE FUN PARTS.ALL RIGHT, SO THAT IS. YES, A QUORUM IS PRESENT, FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS, WE HAVE COMMENTS CARDS THAT ARE WHITE CARDS TO BE FILLED OUT. COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THE NON-AGENDA RELATED TOPICS FOR A LENGTH OF TIME, NOT TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
AGENDA ITEM COMMENT CARDS. THOSE ARE THE YELLOW CARDS THAT CAN BE FILLED OUT BY ALL MEMBERS IN THE GALLERY. COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THE NON-AGENDA AND AGENDA ITEMS COMBINED FOR A LENGTH OF TIME NOT TO EXCEED FIVE MINUTES TOTAL PER PERSON ON ALL ITEMS EXCEPT FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. COMMENTS ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS MUST BE MADE WHEN THE ITEM COMES BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, AND MUST NOT EXCEED TWO MINUTES PER PERSON. NO ACTION OR DISCUSSION MAY BE TAKEN DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE, PLEASE COMPLETE THE WHITE OR YELLOW CARD THAT YOU CHOOSE AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY CLERK CITY STAFF DESIGNEE.
PRIOR TO THE MEETING. DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? YES WE HAVE NO CARDS TO PRESENT ALL RIGHT. NEXT,
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WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL OF THE ITEMS. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE SELF-EXPLANATORY BY THE COMMUNITY IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS REQUESTED BY THE CHAIR OR A COMMITTEE MEMBER, IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR RECOMMENDATIONS. I MOVE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE MINUTES. OH, SORRY. ALRIGHTY. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER LEONARD AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER IS. PLEASE. CORRECT. TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY[REGULAR AGENDA]
I, I THAT MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHTY. ITEM TWO IS THE REGULAR AGENDA, CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE UPDATED COMPARISON CHART AND NEW IMPACT FEE COMPARISON CHART THAT JUST CAME OUT TODAY. THIS WEEK THAT INCLUDES MAYNOR, HUTTO AND PFLUGERVILLE. WE HAVE STAFF HERE WITH US. YES, PAULINE GRAY, GBA CITY ENGINEER, THE FIRST, EXHIBIT IN YOUR PACKET IS JUST, COMPARING, BASTROP, HUTTO. PFLUGERVILLE. MAYNOR. CURRENTLY WITHOUT A ROADWAY IMPACT FEES AND THEN PROPOSED, THIS CHART HAS NOT CHANGED, BASICALLY, IT'S THE SAME AS WHAT IT HAS BEEN SINCE WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT, I JUST KEPT IT IN AS A REFERENC. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT, ITEM, THEN WE'RE COMPARING HUTTO, PFLUGERVILLE, AND THE PROPOSED, MINA. IMPACT FEE FOR ROADWAYS, AND SO THIS ONE WAS BASICALLY BASING THE IMPACT FEES FOR INDUSTRIAL OR RETAIL OR NONRESIDENTIAL AT THE LOW NUMBER FOR THE SERVICE AREA, WHICH IS THE, THE 500 AND 1701, VERSUS THE 727, WHICH IS THE HIGH, AND SO ALL THAT DOES THAT CHART DID NOT CHANGE EITHER. THOSE WERE THE SAME NUMBERS THAT WE LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY, SO THE THIRD CHART WITH THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTING, BASICALLY WHAT I WENT IN THERE BECAUSE WE HAD DISCUSSED IT WAS SETTING IMPACT FEE AMOUNT, FOR NONRESIDENTIAL LIKE RETAIL, INDUSTRIAL, AND BASICALLY FOLLOWING WHAT PFLUGERVILLE DOES, WHICH IS $400. PER SERVICE MILE, AND SO WHAT THAT DOES IT COMPARES, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO WHAT PFLUGERVILLE IS DOING. AND IT BROUGHT MINA A LOT CLOSER, IF NOT LOWER, THAN SOME OF THE STUFF THAT PFLUGERVILLE. AND IT BROUGHT US A LOT CLOSER TO, IT'S ACTUALLY THE SAME AS HUTTO. YEAH. NOW FOR THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, BECAUSE HUTTO SAID THERE IS AT 400 PFLUGERVILLE VARIES. THEIRS BASED ON WHAT SERVICE AREA YOU'RE IN. AND SO ALL THE[00:05:01]
IT JUST SHOWS YOU THAT IF YOU KNOW, WHAT Y'ALL NEED TO DECIDE IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL. DO WE WANT TO RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, DOING WHAT PFLUGERVILLE DOES, WHERE IT VARIES BY SERVICE AREA OR RECOMMEND A SET AMOUNT. AND IT'S NOT FOR RESIDENTIAL. THE RESIDENTIAL IS GOING TO BE WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, WITH, YOU KNOW, A SET AMOUNT BASED ON WHAT SERVICE AREA THAT HASN'T CHANGED AND THAT WILL NOT CHANGE, BUT WHAT IT DOES IF WE RECOMMENDED COUNCIL TO SET IT AT THE 400, IT GETS US MORE IN LINE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER CITIES. I THOUGHT THE 400 WAS. YOU TURNED IT OFF. OH, SHOOT. NOW IT'S ON. NOW IT'S ON. YEAH. OKAY, COOL. I THOUGHT THE 400 WAS REASONABLE, AND I THOUGHT IT ALSO KIND OF DID AWAY WITH THE INEQUITIES OF, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS, PAYING DIFFERENT PRICING. THAT'S WHAT HUTTO OR PFLUGERVILLE DID, WHICHEVER ONE IT WAS. AND IT SEEMED REASONABLE TO ME. YEAH, IT'S PFLUGERVILLE BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES DEPENDING LIKE IF WE GO WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS PER SERVICE AREA, THEN DEPENDING ON WHERE SOMEBODY CAME IN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF MARK, YOU KNOW, MARK DID A LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A GROCERY STORE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD PAY A DIFFERENT IMPACT FEE THAN SOMEBODY THAT WAS IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY, BUT WHAT THIS DOES, IT MAKES IT A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERYBODY PAYING THE 400. AND WHAT IT'LL DO, IS IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT HINDERING COMMERCIAL GROWTH IN THE CITY WITH HAVING THE HIGHER IMPACT FEES FOR LIKE RETAIL, FOR RETAIL? YES AND THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD HAD WAS HAVING AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, SERVICE AREA ONE HAS A HIGHER NEED ON THE ROADWAY CAPACITY PLAN OR ON YOUR PROJECT LIST. YES. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE IS IT ROADWAY CAPACITY PLAN. CORRECT. OR WHAT'S IT CALLED. YEAH. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE, EACH SERVICE AREA WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS BROKEN OUT IN SERVICE AREA ONE WAS THE ONE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT INCLUDES LIKE OLD DOWNTOWN. YEAH. NORTH OF, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NORTH OF 290 AND SOUTH. AND SO IT NEEDED MORE WORK. SO IT HAS A HIGHER, IMPACT FEE AMOUNT, HERE'S THE THING, THOUGH, REALLY IN THAT SERVICE AREA, WE'RE PROBABLY LIMITED AT THIS POINT. WHAT ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO COME IN, CORRECT, JUST BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR THE MOST PART, OLDER PART OF THE CITY. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT STUFF BEING REZONED TO LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS OR DOWNTOWN BUSINESS. YEAH. AND SO MOST OF THOSE DON'T HAVE TO DO TIES AT ALL AND STUFF. AND IT'S MINIMAL IMPACT TO EXISTING TRAFFIC. YEAH, YEAH. BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS, YOU KNOW, SERVICE AREA TWO IS PRETTY HIGH AS WELL. AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH JUST WHAT'S COMING IN IN THAT AREA. BUT THAT AREA HAS A GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMERCIAL GROWTH. YEAH. AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, ECONOMICAL BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS PASS THESE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES AND THEN WE DON'T GET ANY BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO COME TO MEANER. YEAH. AS I SAY, WE JUST REACHED THAT THRESHOLD OF POPULATION DENSITY FOR ATTRACTING. THAT'S WHY WE'RE I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING THE EXPLOSION BECAUSE WE EXPLODED. AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE EXPLOSION BECAUSE WE KEEP EXPLODING AND WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK TO ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS JUST NORTH OF US, OR ALSO JUST NORTHWEST OF US TO SEE WHAT THAT IS AND HOW FAST THAT HAPPENS. AND I BELIEVE IT WAS BEFORE YOU JOINED THE COMMITTEE, THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CERTAIN BUSINESSES NOT GOING INTO PFLUGERVILLE AND DECIDING TO GO TO HUTTO OR SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THE WHERE IT WAS MORE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. IT WAS.YEAH, IT WAS. JACK ALLEN WAS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. AND I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER BIG BOX USER.
YEAH. YEAH. AND SO THAT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE DOHERTY. YEAH. COMMISSIONER DOHERTY, JACK ALLEN'S KITCHEN. OH THAT'S RIGH, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THIS TOO. AND PART OF WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ON THESE IS TRYING TO USE THE FEE OR MAKE SURE THAT THE FEES DON'T THEY INCENTIVIZE OR DON'T THEY INCENTIVIZE OR DISINCENTIVIZE A LITTLE BIT OF GROWTH WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED, WHAT WHAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED OR WHAT'S NECESSARY, BUT ALSO REALISTIC. I DO KIND OF APPRECIATE THE PARITY, THOUGH. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE EASIER ON STAFF SIDE TO ADMINISTER TO A DEGREE. BUT, ALSO, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS, IS THE ETJ IS REALLY KIND OF ALL THE REGULATION, ALL THE CONTROL STOPS AT THE, AT THE, AT THE CITY LIMITS. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SET YOUR FEE SO HIGH WHERE YOU INDUCE A LOT A BIG BUBBLE OF GROWTH OF A, OF SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN YOURS. BUT YOU JUST TURNED IT, YOU TURNED UP THE, THE KNOB TOO HIGH ON THE, ON THE REGULATIONS. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LIMITED BECAUSE WE
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CAN'T USE THESE IMPACT FEES FOR 290 OR 9, 73 OR OLD HIGHWAY 20 BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T CITY ROADS.YEAH. SO THIS WOULD GO, BUT THIS WOULD TAKE THE BURDEN OFF OF THE LOCAL TAX BASE TO A DEGREE. YES, IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD SHIFT THE BURDEN COMPLETELY AWAY FROM US. RIGHT. SO WE COULD WORK EXISTING TAXPAYERS, EXPANDING SOME OF THE CITY ROADS TO WHERE YOU KNOW IT, YOU KNOW, CITY TAXES WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO UP OR YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PASS BONDS OR ANYTHING THAT HOPEFULLY WE COULD USE THOSE FUNDS TO EXPAND CITY ROADS. COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON I BELIEVE THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW THIS NEW CHART HERE, WHICH IS EXHIBIT THREE, CORRECT? YES.
EXHIBIT THREE IS THE NEW ONE. EXHIBIT TWO WAS LAST MONTH BECAUSE JEFF COMES ON BOARD AND GOES, HEY, WHAT ABOUT OUR NEIGHBOR UP IN PFLUGERVILLE? PFLUGERVILLE BACK? AND THEN OF COURSE, THE ORIGINAL ONE WITH BASTROP. IF I MAY BRIEFLY INTERJECT, LOOKING AT THIS CHART. AND IT COULD JUST BE SO FOR UNAWARE SINCE I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO THIS, THE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL 85,000 SQUARE FOOT WATER IMPACT FEE SAYS HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, SO THOSE IMPACT FEES ARE BASED ON WATER METER SIZE. SO WE ESTIMATE WHAT SIZE WATER METER THEY WOULD NEED, AND SO YOU WELL TO THAT POINT, 315,000 SQUARE FOOT IS ONLY 32,000. YEAH. THE NUMBERS SEEM OFF ON THAT WASTEWATER IMPACT. THE WATER IMPACT FEE, IT GOES FROM $32,000. YOU IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER INDUSTRIAL FOOTPRINT, YOU HAVE A TWO INCH WATER METER. YOU'RE PAYING $500,000 FOR A CONNECTION FEE. THEIR WATER IS BETTER VERSUS A THREE INCH BEING 30, 30, 2000. THIS IS ON EXHIBI.
THIS IS ON ACTUALLY ALL THREE EXHIBITS. EVIAN IT'S ON THE FIRST TWO EXHIBITS AND THE LAST TWO EXHIBITS. I'M SO SORRY. THE FIRST ONE IS 16,176 FOR THAT. AND THE OTHER ONES ARE THE SAME.
I THINK SOMETHING GOT I THINK SOMEBODY MISSED A DECIMAL. OH SO IT'S THE SAME AS PROPOSED RETAI.
DO YOU SEE THERE'S MAYBE AN ERROR IN THE CELL BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS, ARE NOT COMPUTING TOGETHER. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT SHOULD MATCH THOSE IMPACT FEE NUMBERS SHOULD MATCH WHAT'S ON THE FIRST, SHEET. YEAH YEAH. THANK YOU. BECAUSE THE WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE WILL BE A LOT HIGHER BECAUSE THE WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE IS ALMOST FOUR TIMES WHAT THE WATER IMPACT FEE IS. OKAY. SO YEAH. SO THOSE NUMBERS AND THOSE OTHER CHARTS SHOULD BE I GUESS SOMETHING GOT ADDED IN THERE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE. SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE OFF. SO IT SHOULD BE 16 176 FOR THAT.
MOST LIKELY FOR THE SMALL FOR THE 85,000 SQUARE FOOT INDUSTRIAL. THAT PROBABLY IS A, YEAH. THAT WOULD PUT IT ON PARITY WITH A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL SPACE. SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE A LOT CLOSER TO THAT AT A MINIMUM. YEAH BETWEEN THE TWO EITHER. YEAH. AND I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO WELL I CAN'T I CAN, I CAN SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A MOTION, OF MAYBE EVEN REDUCING JUST THE. YEAH. NO, I THINK I'M PRETTY MUCH ON PAR WITH, WITH THE REVISED SHEET THAT SHE HAS.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE OUR ROADS SUCK. SO BAD, AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE LIKE, MAKE ALL THESE COMMENTS ABOUT. AND EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK AND EVERYWHERE YOU HEAR. AND THAT'S JUST OUR ROADS SUCK. THEY SUCK. WE HAVE TRAFFIC SUCKS, RIGHT? THIS IS IN A WAY TO HELP THEM. IS THAT RIGHT? AND TO WHERE YOU AS TAXPAYING CITIZENS DON'T HAVE TO SHOULDER THE FULL BURDEN. YEAH. OF THE ROAD, SHOULDER THE BURDEN. IT'S A FAIR SHARE. YEAH.
YES. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY HELPING PAY ITS FAIR SHARE OR ITS PORTION TO HELP COVER THIS. WE REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE BUSINESSES HERE, TO ME, WE NEED THIS AND I DON'T WE HAVE SO MUCH COMING INTO MAYNARD. YEAH. AND SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF IMPACT FEES AND STUFF, IT DOES ALL DEPENDED ON WHEN PLATTS GET RECORDED. CORRECT. WHICH MEANS LIKE A LOT OF THINGS ARE GRANDFATHERED. YES. EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE PIPELINE NOW WAS ALREADY PLATTE.
NOW, LIKE SOME OF THE PLATS THAT Y'ALL DISCUSSED EARLIER, IF THEY GET RECORDED BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS, THEN THEY WON'T HAVE TO PAY ANY ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. CORRECT. SO, BUT IF WE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME, YES. IF WE TAKE ACTION TONIGHT. YEAH I MEAN THIS THIS GOING OVER THE NUMBERS AND THIS WAS MORE JUST TO SAY DO WE WANT TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE A SET AMOUNT OF $400 FOR NONRESIDENTIAL. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. WOULD
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THIS COME IN PRE HEB AND THE WHOLE. OR IS THAT ALREADY BEEN PLATTED. OH THAT'S ALREADY HEB SITE. THAT WHOLE SITE'S ALREADY BEEN PLATTED AS WE PLATTED AND SITE PLANNED AND ZONED. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHOLE SITE IS SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO IMPROVE. 290 AND 973 YEAH, IT REALLY WHERE IT'S COMING IN THE CITY WOULDN'T REALLY GET ANY LIKE THERE'S NO STREETS, CITY STREETS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO FOR THE MOST PART, THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT TO WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WOULD WAIVE THEIR IMPACT FEES ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE GIVING THEY'RE DOING ON SITE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING SO MUCH ON SITE IMPROVEMENT. THAT'S WHY THAT THAT'S WHY THAT RIGHT TURN LANE.OH YOU LIVE SOUTH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEE IT. IT'S REALLY MESSY, THAT RIGHT TURN ON TO 290 FROM 973 HAS BEEN, ADJUSTED, FOR THE I TURN LEFT AND SO I HAVE TO LIKE, MERGE WITH THEM. YOU STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH. I FEEL THE PAIN, BUT, I HAD A CLOSE INCIDENT TODAY. YEAH, I HAVE CLOSE INCIDENTS, LIKE, IT'S LIKE. BUT, I MEAN, WORSE COMES TO WORSE IF THESE NUMBERS ARE TOO HIGH AND WE HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT DON'T WANT TO COME, DON'T WANT OR WHATEVER, WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT TO BECOME MORE COMPETITIVE. RIGHT SO THIS IS A FIRST GUESS BY US. YES. RIGHT ULTIMATELY IT'S ALSO UP TO THE COUNCIL DECIDES. YES, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IN THE NEXT ITEM, RECOMMENDS ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE OF THIS SHEET OF THIS TABLE. YES. AND I CAN TELL YOU WE STARTED DOING THAT WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER. WASTEWATER. JUST BECAUSE THE WAY STUFF IS GROWING AND IT USED TO BE FIVE YEAR UPDATES AND, YOU KNOW, TEN YEAR. BUT YEAH, NOW WE'RE DOING IT ALMOST EVERY YEAR. YEAH. DO YOU NEED US TO APPROVE THIS? WHAT I NEED IS A DIRECTION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THESE NUMBERS, BUT I NEED SOME SORT OF MOTION TO SAY, OKAY, AS A COMMITTEE, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEND TO COUNCIL. LIKE I SAID, THE RECOMMENDATION AND IT'S MORE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NON RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THE RESIDENTIAL IS GOING TO BE BASED ON WHAT SERVICE AREA. SO THAT WILL VARY. BUT, LIKE I SAID WE I'D COME BACK BECAUSE Y'ALL WANTED TO DISCUSS HAVING A SET FEE AMOUNT FOR NON RESIDENTIAL WHICH WOULD BE RETAIL INDUSTRIAL AND WHATNOT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I NEED. SO THEN I CAN PREPARE THE ITEMS TO GO TO COUNCIL.
THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, I'M GOING TO PREPARE. IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE AN ENGINEERING REPORT, LIKE I DO FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER FEES FOR COUNCIL. AND WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THE COMMITTEE MET ALL THESE TIMES. THIS IS WHAT THEY RECOMMEND. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, COUNCIL WILL EITHER, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT WHAT Y'ALL SUGGEST OR THEY MAY MODIFY IT. TYPICALLY IN THE PAST THEY'VE ALWAYS JUST ACCEPTED WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDED. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR RECOMMENDATION IF ANYBODY WANTS.
OR CAN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION YET OR ON THAT ON THAT, ON THAT ON THE ORDINANCE. DO WE HAVE TO BE ON THE NEXT ITEM OR NOT, I KNOW THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S OUT OF ORDER. IS IT OKAY? YEAH I DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE AGAIN TO CONSIDER THIS ITEM, CONSIDER THE TABLE BEFORE WE CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE OF THE TABLE. RELATED TO. DO YOU NEED A MOTION, OR YOU JUST. I JUST NEED DIRECTION FROM THEM. IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH ME PRESENTING IT TO COUNCIL AT BEING A SET RATE OF $400. MOTION MEETING. IS THERE A MOTION? IF THERE'S NO, WHY WOULD WE HAVE IT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE MOTION SHEET THEN IT'S STAFF RECOMMENDATION SAYS IT IS THE STAFF'S CITY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE DISCUSS THE UPDATE.
OH, I'M SO SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT. YEAH IT WAS JUST A JUST DISCUSS IT, AND LIKE I SAID, WHAT I'LL DO IS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, I'LL PREPARE THE ENGINEERING REPORT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
ALL THAT STUFF IN THERE, Y'ALL, WE COULD TAKE A POLL OF IT. EVERYONE REALLY QUICK IF YOU'D WANT, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH EXHIBIT THREE IN THIS LIST. THE ONE WITH THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW SECTION WITH THE AMENDED BOX FOR WATER IMPACT FEE FOR SMALL FOR 85,000 SQUARE FOOT INDUSTRIAL. I WILL HAVE 16 176 CORRECTED. YEAH, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO STAFF. SAME I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS WELL. I'D RECOMMEND NOT TRYING TO CHANGE IT. NO YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WITH A MAX IMPACT FEE COLLECTION RATE OF $400 FOR NONRESIDENTIAL USE. YEAH, THAT'S. IS THAT WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED? $400? YES. OKAY THEN. YEAH I THAT MATCHES WHAT HUTTO HAS BEEN DOING. AND IT BRINGS US IT BRINGS IT'LL BRING
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ME CLOSER TO OKAY. YEAH I SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. PARDON. YEAH. SHOULD THE RECOMMENDATION INCLUDE THE ORDINANCE IF YOU HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THE ORDINANCE YET IN THE NEXT ITEM I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW. THEY'RE ON 222. YEAH. SO IT SHOULDN'T INCLUDE THE ORDINANCE YET. OKAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TABLE. SO THIS ITEM DOESN'T NEED A MOTION. JUST PROVIDE FEEDBACK LIKE YEAH WE'RE OKAY WITH WE ENDORSE YOU. YOU PRESENTED PRESENTING TO COUNCIL EXHIBIT THREE. YEAH. SO THERE'S NO MOTION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE. NO. WE'RE THE $400. THE $400.OKAY. YEAH. OKAY EVERYBODY'S ON PAGE. ALRIGHTY. WE JUST HAD TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE IT.
CORRECT. NO, NO, NO, IT'S NOT AN ACTIONABLE ITEM. YEAH JUST ASKING FOR DIRECTION SO WE CAN PROVIDE DIRECTION. DID WE DO THAT YET OR. YES OKAY. YEAH. YEAH YEAH I MEAN I GOT IT I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THE 400. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER TERRY PROVIDING DIRECTION, WITH, EMPHASIS BY. I'M SO SORRY. I ALWAYS MISS OUT BY COMMISSIONER TIMMERMAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVE TIMMERMAN, ALRIGHTY. SO THIS ORDINANCE. OH, GO AHEAD, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE. EVERYONE, WE'RE GETTING THERE. YOU YOU'RE READY TO GO? YEAH, WE'RE GOING QUICK TONIGHT. ARE WE EVER GOING? HEY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE MOTIONS ON THIS ONE.
POSSIBLY, THIS IS CONSIDERED. OH, NOPE. NOPE IT'S THE FINAL ITEM. CONSIDERATION DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A DRAFT ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE, SO WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, SO I WENT IN THERE AND I MADE SOME OF THE CHANGES, THERE IN RED, AND I THINK IT WAS JUST MAINLY, REGARDING DOING THE YEARLY UPDATES AS Y'ALL HAD SUGGESTED, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT PAGE I SAW. I MEAN, TO GO, SO, YEAH, IT'S ON. OKAY. THERE'S NO PAGE NUMBERS ON THIS, SO, IT'S, SECTION, 15 AND SO, WE, BEFORE HE LEFT, SCOTT AND I WENT THROUGH THIS, AND WE MADE THAT MODIFICATION. EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN IT WAS THE SAME AS WAS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING. AND SO THE ONLY THING THAT WILL BE CHANGING IN THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE, EXHIBIT B, WHERE I WILL PUT IN THERE WHAT, THE MAXIMUM ACCESSIBLE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE PER SERVICE AREA WILL BE, AND SO I WILL JUST BREAK THAT OUT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL. SO I SUPPORT THAT. AND AS YOU REMEMBER WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY THAT, THE ONLY THING WE REMOVED THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WAS, LIKE COMING UP WITH AN ORDER OF PROJECTS BECAUSE WE DECIDED, NO OTHER CITY DOES THAT. THEY JUST HAVE THE LIST OF PROJECTS AND HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY THEY GET MONEY TO FUND ONE OF THEM ON THE LIST. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WAS REMOVED.
WONDERFUL I'M GOING THROUGH. YEAH. I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC FOR US TO TRY IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S SCALABLE. RIGHT? I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING ON THE LIST AND IT'S $5 MILLION AND YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU COULD DO SOMETHING ELSE IF YOU GET 2 MILLION FROM SOMEBODY. YEAH. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR THE RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE OR. YEAH, YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, COMMITTEE MEMBER PAYS A SECOND. I'LL SECOND A SECOND BY COMMITTEE MEMBER. MY, NOPE. TERRY. THANK YOU. POP UP, THIS IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMUNITY IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. DISCUSSED THE UPDATED IMPACT FEE COMPARISON CHART, AS WELL AS THE NEW COMPARISON CHART. AM I ON THE RIGHT ONE? YEAH THREE. I'M ON THREE. AND THAT'S NOT THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN HERE. WE HAVE BAD LANGUAGE ON THAT. THAT'S OKAY. I'M GOING TO SAY YES. I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S CONSIDERATION. AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A DRAFT ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE. SO THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND CONSIDERATION AND POTENTIAL ADOPTION OF THE DRAFT ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED HERE IN THE COUNCIL.
IN THE COMMITTEE BACK UP DISCUSSION. DO WE NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION WITH THAT ONE CAVEAT OF THE, RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL, OR IS THAT INFERRED WITHIN THE RECOMMENDATION? AND ADD IT? Y'ALL CAN I MEAN, I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN THERE, BUT IF YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WE CAN
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GO AHEAD AND ADD IT IN. SO SINCE WE'VE ALREADY MADE A MOTION AND SECONDED, WHAT DO WE HAVE YOU CAN AMEND THE MAIN MOTION CORRECT? YES BUT THAT IS ALREADY CORRECT. YEAH. SO I DON'T IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. THAT'S WHAT SHE'S DOING RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S ALREADY IN THERE. SO WE'RE GOOD. YEAH IT'LL BE IN THERE. LIKE I SAID I WILL COME BACK WITH THE FINAL DRAFT.I JUST NEED SOMETHING TO GET PREPARED FOR CITY LEGAL TO REVIEW. SO THEN I SECOND, OH, WE ALREADY SECOND IT. OKAY. NEVERMIND. YEP. COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEMBER TERRY SECONDED.
AND THAT WAS A FRIENDLY. IT'S IT COULD HAVE BEEN A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, BUT IT'S ALREADY INCORPORATED IN THE MAIN MOTION. ALRIGHTY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY I, I, I ALL THOSE OPPOSED. THIS MOTION IS UNANIMOUS.
CONGRATULATIONS YOU ALL ON THAT RECOMMENDATION WITH THAT. THAT IS ALL A YEAR AND A HALF OR A YEAR. YEAH. THAT CONCLUDES THE BUSINESS OF THE COMMUNITY IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024. IT IS CURRENTLY 8:23 P.M. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED
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