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TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCING A QUORUM IS PRESENT FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
REGULAR MEETING FOR NOVEMBER THE 12TH, 2025 AT 6:33 P.M. PUBLIC COMMENTS. NON-AGENDA
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ITEMS. PUBLIC COMMENTS. WHITE CARD COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE ON NON GENDER RELATED TOPICS FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME, NOT TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. AGENDA ITEM.PUBLIC COMMENTS. YELLOW CARD COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE ON NON AGENDA AND AGENDA ITEMS COMBINED FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME NOT TO EXCEED FIVE MINUTES TOTAL PER PERSON ON ANY ITEMS EXCEPT FOR PUBLIC HEARING. COMMENTS ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS WILL BE MADE WHEN ITEMS COME BEFORE THE BOARD COMMISSION COMMITTEE, AND NOT TO EXCEED TWO MINUTES PER PERSON. NON NON NO ACTION OR DISCUSSION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE BOARD COMMISSION COMMITTEE DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON ITEMS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, COMMISSION AND COMMITTEE, PLEASE COMPLETE THE WHITE OR YELLOW CARD AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY STAFF DESIGNATED PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WE HAVE ONE NON AGENDA ITEM. MISTER ROBERT BATTLE, IS THAT CORRECT? WOULD YOU KEEP THE TIME? YEAH.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. I DO HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE CALLED GROUP PAGE CALLED MAINER COMMUNITY COALITION. I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO GO CHECK THAT OUT. I ALSO TRY TO SEND YOU GUYS SOME PICTURES OF A FEW THINGS.
AND IN MY MIND, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN EMAIL ADDRESS. AND IF A CITIZEN WANTS TO EMAIL THEM, THEY SHOULD EMAIL THEM. WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THAT? I OFFERED TO GIVE YOU GUYS IN EVERY COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION IN TOWN A FREE ONE, BUT THAT WOULD, I GUESS, JUST BE TOO EMBARRASSING. OKAY, NOW LET'S LET'S TALK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT THE WAY THAT THE CITY OF MAINER GOT BAMBOOZLED ABOUT MAINER DOWNS. AND YOU GUYS, I THINK, LEFT OUT A VERY IMPORTANT STEP. 46 ACRES GOT DE-ANNEXED OUT OF THE ETJ OF AUSTIN AND INTO THE 160 OR 130 OR SO THAT MAINER DOWNS ALREADY HAD. WHEN THAT PROPERTY COMES IN, THAT'S THE END OF PHASE ONE. IT'S NOT TIED TO ANY WAREHOUSE BUILDING. IT'S JUST THAT'S IT. THAT'S THE MOMENT AT WHICH WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO EXPAND OUT INTO THAT NEW AREA. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST BASIC CITY PLANNING 101, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALL ALONG GILLILAND CREEK, THERE'S A GIANT GREENBELT. IT DOESN'T JUST STOP AT DAUPHIN. IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP THE CREEK. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST OBVIOUS NOW.
ALSO, IT'S IN THE CODES THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT THESE TREES. WHEN HEALTHY NATIVE TREES ARE LOCATED IN THE BUFFER YARD, EXISTING TREES AND SHRUBS SHALL NOT BE REMOVED OR REPLACED WITH NEW PLANTINGS. I SENT YOU GUYS PICTURES OF GIANT GROVES OF TREES WITHIN PARKING LOT. TREES BECOME FOCAL POINTS MOVING THE SITE PLANS RATHER THAN THE TREES THEMSELVES. THEY GAVE US A PLAN THAT'S JUST LIKE SIX BOXES. AND THE UTTER FAULT ARISE THAT OUR CITY STAFF JUST TOTALLY DRANK THE KOOL-AID AND IS GOING TO PAY THEM $8.5 MILLION TO COME DESTROY MANOR DOWNS AND TURN THAT INTO A WAREHOUSE PARK FOR ROBOTS. WE HAVE A WAREHOUSE PARK. IT'S RIGHT OUT TOWARD ELGIN. YOU GUYS KNOW THIS? IT'S CALLED MANOR COMMERCIAL PARK.
EVERYTHING HAS TO BE A PARK. YEAH, RIGHT. ANYWAY, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THEM OUT THERE. THAT'S WHERE THE BOXES FOR THE FUTURE ROBOTS GO. THEY DON'T GO OUT HERE NEXT TO OUR
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BEAUTIFUL STADIUM FROM THE PAST. AND THEN THESE PEOPLE, ACTUALLY, THEY THINK PRESERVING YOUR HISTORY IS PUTTING MAINER DOWNS ON THE FRONT DOOR OF A WAREHOUSE. I DON'T CALL THAT PROTECTING HISTORY. THAT'S FIVE MINUTES. WAS THAT WAS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN 10S? YEAH.WHAT? WHAT'S THAT MEAN? 10S. 10S. YES. SORRY. HOW ABOUT A TIMER LIGHT THAT COST 200 BUCKS.
THIS TOWN CAN'T EVEN AFFORD A TIMER LIGHT. PARDON ME FOR RAISING MY VOICE. THAT'S CALLED REMONSTRANCE. THAT'S MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH. THAT'S IN THE. THAT'S PROTECTED IN THE STATE BILL OF RIGHTS. IT'S ARTICLE 27, I BELIEVE, IN THE STATE BILL OF RIGHTS. SO I GET TO TALK LOUD.
I GET TO BE OUTRAGEOUS BECAUSE I AM SO DISGUSTED BY THE AMOUNT OF DESTRUCTION GOING ON IN THIS TOWN. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. MOVING ON. PUBLIC HEARING. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON
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REZONING APPLICATION FOR ONE LOT ON 2.78 ACRES, MORE OR LESS. AND BEING. TCAT 236902, ALSO KNOWN AS 12725 US HIGHWAY 290, MAYNARD, TEXAS FROM AGRICULTURE TO IN ONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.COMMISSIONERS, WE DO HAVE MR. JOHN TOMLINSON. HE'S HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING. YES.
COMMISSION. THIS ITEM IS A REZONING FOR THE PROPERTY JUST BEHIND ASCO CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY, PER THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THIS AREA IS ACTUALLY DESIGNATED AS MIXED DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT CURRENTLY GOES ON AROUND IT, THE ADDITION OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BEING CONSTRUCTED IN THE AREA, JUST THE GENERAL TREND OF THAT SPECIFIC PATCH, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A MIXED DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND TWO COMMERCIAL EQUIPMENT DEALERS, SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AN ACTUAL ZONING OF C3 HEAVY COMMERCIAL WITH STIPULATIONS KIND OF LIMITING THE USES THAT ARE THERE TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW FOR A MORE COMMUNITY ORIENTED SERVICE.
THERE BE A RETAIL OR TECHNICAL SCHOOL, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT ALSO APPEALING TO THE DESIRE OF THE APPLICANT. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? ON THE AERIAL IMAGE, THE ZONING MAP WHERE NEW LANE IS THAT IS ETJ OR IS THAT? INSTITUTIONAL SMALL? I BELIEVE IT'S ETJ CORRECT. REPEAT THE QUESTION, STAFF. I THINK YOU JUST HAD IT UP. IT'S THE MULTICOLORED ZONING MAP FOR THE CURRENT ZONING IN THE AREA. YEAH, THE THE LIGHT BLUE AREA.
IS THAT ETJ? YES, THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? NO MORE QUESTIONS. CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? NUMBER ONE, I MOVE, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM ONE. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STETSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER NILA? ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOVING ON. PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER TWO, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON REZONING APPLICATION FOR ONE LOT ON 2.74 ACRES. MORE OR LESS. AND BEING HAD FOR SALE 711105. ALSO KNOWN AS 19217 EAST EASYJET STREET, MAYNARD, TEXAS FROM AGRICULTURE TO IN 1-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS THE ACTUAL ONE THAT JOHN TOMLINSON IS HERE IF NEEDED TO SPEAK FOR. YES. THIS ITEM, THE PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY RECENTLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY WITH THE INTENTION OF BEING USED FOR LONE STAR ELECTRIC. THEY HAVE A PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS LOCATION, AND THEY INTEND TO USE IT TO EXPAND THEIR OPERATIONS. ANY QUESTIONS?
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COMMISSIONERS. IF NO QUESTIONS, CAN RECEIVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER TWO. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE. ITEM NUMBER TWO, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MEYER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. SORRY, ALBERT. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOVING ON. WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC. COMMENT FROM MISTER ROBERT BATTYE. I'M SORRY. BATTLE.YOU'LL. OH, SORRY. REAL QUICK. BE CAREFUL OR I'M GOING TO MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME. YEAH, IT'S PAEZ, BY THE WAY. LET ME READ IT REAL QUICK, MR. BATTLE. AND AND I'LL GET YOU STARTED.
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR CHATEAU GLEN. PHASE THREE, SECTION THREE. BEGINNING 3 TO 8. BEGINNING 681. LOTS ON 247.03 ACRES, MORE OR LESS. AND BEING TCP OR SO. 2480 2954 7346 8044 537804535815596, ALSO KNOWN AS 14611 FOODS GROVE, MAYNARD, TEXAS. ALL RIGHT, MR. BATTLE. THANK YOU, SIR. AND THIS IS AN INTERESTING SITUATION BECAUSE HERE WE HAVE THE SITE MAP. IT'S WHAT, 600 SOME HOUSES I DON'T THERE'S NO PARKLAND. WHERE'S THE PARKLAND? AND I'VE ASKED MR. BURRELL HOPEFULLY HE CAN ANSWER HERE IN A SECOND. HOW MANY HOUSES TIMES. WHAT AMOUNT? LIKE FIVE. 50 PER HOME OR SOMETHING. TIMES 681. OR HOW MANY ACRES? IT SHOULD BE LIKE WHAT, EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES THEY GIVE US THAT'S ACTUALLY USABLE FOR PARKLAND. OPEN SPACE IS NOT EQUAL PARKLAND. WE'VE FIGURED THAT OUT A LONG TIME AGO. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. BURRELL, IF YOU CAN TELL US HOW MUCH PARKLAND FEES, HOW MUCH PARKLAND IN LIEU FEES, HOW MUCH DEVELOPER FEES. I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT, ELSEWHERE ON THEIR MAP, THEY HAVE A LITTLE FEMA GUIDE HERE. I GAVE YOU A COPY AS WELL. I USED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO FIND A PARKING LOT FOR OUR SECRET PARK THERE. WE HAVE A 200 ACRE PARK AT THE END OF THE HOWDY WAY THERE. THAT CUL DE SAC. THESE THREE LOTS AT THE END HAVE NOW BEEN DEEMED TO BE IN THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN. SO THEY CAN'T BE BUILT FOR A HOUSE, BUT THEY CAN BE A PARKING LOT FOR ACCESS TO THE ONE MILE NATURE TRAIL. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD DO. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF POWER. YOU DON'T REALIZE YOU'RE COMMISSION BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL THE VESTIGIAL ORGAN OF SCOTT DUNLOP, WHO THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE HIS PERSONAL COMMITTEE. OKAY. NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THAT REALM OF OVERSIGHT. HE WAS THE SENSOR. I COULDN'T SEND AN EMAIL TO YOU GUYS WITHOUT IT GOING THROUGH HIM AND HIM PUTTING COMMENTS ON IT. SO HOPEFULLY MR. BURRELL IS NOT DOING THAT. YOU GUYS HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT JOB AND WE NEED YOU TO TO UPHOLD THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR CITY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. SEE YOU. STEPH. YES, THIS IS FOR SCHEDULING PHASE THREE, SECTIONS THREE THROUGH EIGHT. IT'S BEEN REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE BY THE ENGINEERS. AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT WAS POSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THERE IS A $250 PER LOT REQUIREMENT FOR PARKLAND FEE IN LIEU. SO IT'S 681 BY 250. THAT PUTS IT AT ABOUT $170,250, THOUGH THAT'S NOT TIED TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT'S ASSESSED ONCE WE GET TO THE FINAL PLAT. ANY QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS? I'LL SAVE MY QUESTIONS FOR THE BUSINESS ITEM RELATED TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN I TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING? NUMBER THREE. I MOVE.
WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM THREE. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STETSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MEYER. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOVING ON.
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CONSENT AGENDA. ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE SELF-EXPLANATORY BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING. COMMISSION, AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS REQUESTED BY THE CHAIRPERSON OR COMMISSIONER MEMBER. IN THE WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDER A DISCUSSION CONSIDERED SEPARATE. SORRY. BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. BECAUSE CONSIDERED DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR OCTOBER THE 8TH. PLANNING AND ZONING OCTOBER THE 8TH, 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. REGULAR SESSION.I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER NILA. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STETSON. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOVING ON. REGULAR AGENDA. CONSIDERED. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
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ON A REZONING APPLICATION FOR ONE LOT ON 2.78 ACRES, MORE OR LESS BEING TCAB PARCEL 236902, ALSO KNOWN AS 12725 US HIGHWAY 290 FROM AGRICULTURE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. CITY STAFF. YES, THIS IS THE PROPERTY JUST BEHIND ASCO. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.STAFF WHAT ARE WE CONSIDERING FOR A BUFFER THERE SINCE WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NEXT TO THAT. AND C3 SEEMS PRETTY INTENSE FOR WHAT APPEARS TO MAYBE BE LIKE 150 FOOT LOT, 200 FOOT LOT. SO IT'LL BE DEPENDENT ON THE ACTUAL USE. HEAVY COMMERCIAL ACTUALLY HAS MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY DEPENDENT ON WHAT'S INTENDED TO GO ON THE LOT. OH, AND WE HAVE A BIG LIST OF RESTRICTIVE. RESTRICTIONS TO CONSIDER. BUT BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT YOU IT'S LIKE A KITCHEN SINK, COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIAL ZONING CATEGORY. I'M JUST FROM A FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE YOU HAVE WHILE THEY'RE IN THE ETJ, THEY'RE STILL HUMANS AND THEY STILL LIVE IN HOMES ON KATIE LANE. AND SO I'M TRYING TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THEY EXIST AS HUMANS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION. AND THEN WE HAVE HUMANS AND HOUSES THAT ARE ABOUT 100FT OR 200FT DOWN. SO I'M TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF LIKE IF WE ARE FLUM OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO USE ACRONYMS HERE BEFORE 7:00 ON A WEDNESDAY, BUT IF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT WE JUST ADOPTED TWO YEARS AGO ANTICIPATED THAT THIS COMMERCIAL LOT WOULD EVENTUALLY FLIP TO A MORE OF A MIXED USE OR MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL RETAIL.
I'M CONFUSED WHY WE WOULD. GO OFF OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY AS OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLE WITH THE WITH THE CONTEXT OF THE PEOPLE SLEEPING OR DOING WHATEVER ELSE THEY DO IN THEIR HOME DIRECTLY
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ADJACENT TO THIS PARCEL THAT'S CURRENTLY AGRICULTURE. SO THAT'S I'M TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, HOW EVEN C3 IS AN APPROPRIATE USE. SO IN THIS CONTEXT, YES, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNATED WELL THAT AS CO. AND FORGIVE ME FOR THE NEIGHBORS, NOT ANDERSON WHO'S NEXT TO THEM.THAT AREA IS STILL ALREADY DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL USAGE. AND IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT ANY POINT THAT YOU KNOW, THAT CHANGES WHEN LOOKING AT WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED VERSUS WHAT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE A MORE BENEFICIAL USE FOR THE COMMUNITY STAFF ESSENTIALLY CONTEMPLATED LAND, MORE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A SPACE THAT THEY CAN GO TO AND UTILIZE PROPERLY. WHEREAS IF WE WENT WITH INDUSTRIAL, IT WOULD JUST BE MORE OF THE SAME. WHEREAS WITH THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION, IT STILL GIVES THEM THAT FLEXIBILITY TO DO SOMETHING POTENTIALLY INDUSTRIAL, LIKE, SAY, MORE EQUIPMENT SALES OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR, SAY, RESIDENTIAL OR FLEX SPACE OR MORE OF A AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, COMMUNITY DRIVEN MINDSET. YEAH, WOULD THE APPLICANT BE RECEPTIVE TO C-1? THAT WE SEE USUALLY USED IN ADJACENT PARCELS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, LIKE WHAT'S GOING IN AT LONGHORN STEAKHOUSE, LIKE IN FRONT OF THE GRASS FIELD OR THAT'S MULTIFAMILY TECHNICALLY IN FRONT BEHIND IT, OR WHAT'S GOING IN RIGHT AT AT GREENBERRY. AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE. I DON'T THINK THEY FILLED OUT A CARD. THE APPLICANT. YEAH, I'LL CALL YOU A REAL NAME WHEN I FIND IT. BUT YEAH, I'M JEFF, COMMISSIONER JEFF. I'M TRYING I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. SURE. JUST STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME? MY NAME IS CARSON BIRD, BY THE WAY. THANK YOU. I'M REPRESENTING. MY CLIENT IS AN INVESTOR WHO'S WHO'S PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY? CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT ON. IT HAS NOT CLOSED.
SET TO CLOSE NEXT MONTH. BUT YEAH, THE INTENTION HERE IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, TO DO SIMILAR TO WHAT ASCO IS, IS DOING IN THE FRONT WHICH IS SOME KIND OF INDUSTRIAL USE WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE TYPICALLY A LIGHTER. YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT DOING MANUFACTURING. WE'RE NOT DOING KIND OF THE HEAVIER INDUSTRIAL USES, BUT MORE OF THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT SALES, HEAVY EQUIPMENT RENTALS, THAT KIND OF THING. AND THE INTENTION IS TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THESE THREE HEAVY EQUIPMENT SUPPLIERS UP FRONT. IT REALLY MAKES SENSE.
ALL THOSE GUYS LIKE TO KIND OF BE TOGETHER. MY INVESTOR HAS REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH SOME OF THESE KIND OF HIGHER END NATIONAL. YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER LIKE NATIONAL CREDIT EQUIPMENT DEALERS, THE SUNBELT RENTALS, THE UNITED RENTALS, THE GUYS OF THOSE WORLD. AND THEY ALL LIKE TO KIND OF BE TOGETHER. AND SO THE INTENTION IS TO IS TO DO MORE OF THAT. NO INTENTION OF ADDING ANY BUILDINGS OR DOING ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS IN, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, JUST KIND OF IMPROVING WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE AND, AND BRINGING IN ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THOSE USES. SO ESSENTIALLY THE INTENT UPON CLOSING OF THIS DEAL THAT DOESN'T, HASN'T CLOSED YET IS ESSENTIALLY EXPAND, EXPAND THE BLUEPRINT THAT YOU SEE TO THE NORTH OF THIS PARCEL AS LIKE EQUIPMENT SALES AND STORAGE. CORRECT? CORRECT. I FIND THAT FASCINATING THAT YOU GUYS ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE GAS COMPANY, THE GAS STATIONS WHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE NEAR, WELL, I GUESS, YEAH, WE HAVE THREE GROCERY STORES ON THREE CORNERS NOW. WE HAVE THREE GAS STATIONS ON THREE CORNERS. SO I GUESS THAT IS KIND OF A THING. RIGHT. BUT ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU WOULD NOT BE RECEPTIVE TO ANYTHING LESSER THAN C3 THOUGH BECAUSE THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW YOUR USE TO PROCEED. I THINK JUST, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD NEED TO INCLUDE SOME KIND OF WAREHOUSING USE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANT THING IS SOME KIND OF OUTSIDE STORAGE USE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE C3 ZONING PRIOR TO THIS, AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD SUFFICE AS OPPOSED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. BUT I HAVEN'T REALLY DOVE INTO LESSER USES THAN C3. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY IF THEY STILL ALLOW FOR THOSE USES, THEN I THINK WE WOULD BE OPEN TO IT. THANK YOU. SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK THERE, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THERE AND HAVE BEEN IN THIS TOWN LONGER THAN PROBABLY MAJORITY OF US HAVE BEEN ALIVE, BUT SO WHAT I KNOW COMMISSIONER STETSON DID TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT THE. YOUR NEIGHBORING A COMMUNITY THAT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS A PART OF.
MAYNOR. THAT IS RIGHT THERE YOU ARE BASICALLY THEIR BACKYARD. SO YEAH. I KNOW THAT BUILDING
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IS ALREADY THERE. I THINK AT ONE TIME IT WAS A BUS STATION OR A BUS DEPOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK. SO I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I GUESS JUST KNOWING THOSE THINGS AND KNOWING YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACK THERE TO HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A GOOD BIT. THE NOISE, THE EQUIPMENT, ALL THAT STUFF. WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT? I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION. YEAH, YEAH. NO, I THINK THAT LIKE YOU LOOK AT WHERE THESE GUYS ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY LOCATED WHICH IS ALONG, YOU KNOW, FRONTAGE. YOU CAN SEE YOUR SUNBELT RENTALS, UNITED RENTALS, USUALLY THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN PRETTY HEAVY DENSITY AREAS. A LOT OF RETAIL SOMETIMES BACKED UP TO RESIDENTIAL. THEY KIND OF HAVE MORE OF LIKE A RETAIL ALMOST ASPECT TO IT. WHILE THEY ARE AN INDUSTRIAL USE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THAT JUST THESE, YOU KNOW, THESE COMPANIES IN GENERAL THAT THESE GUYS TYPICALLY WORK WITH ARE, ARE KIND OF USED TO BEING AROUND HEAVIER DENSITY AREAS.AND, AND SEEM, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, TO WORK WELL WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON PUTTING UP A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT MANUFACTURING FACILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE MORE OF THOSE CONCERNS. BUT YEAH, IF I MAY JUMP IN, THERE IS ALSO THE REQUIREMENT FOR A IF IT'S INDUSTRIAL LIGHT 50 FOOT SETBACK TO RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN C3 IS A 40 FOOT WITH AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER YARD THAT SITS WITHIN THERE. IT'S TREES AND SHRUBS OKAY. AS WELL AS C3. C3 ADDS THE ADDITIONAL BUFFER.
BOTH THE BUFFER YARD. BOTH. CAN YOU RESTATE THE BUFFERS THAT YOU JUST STATED? SO INDUSTRIAL LIGHT HAS A MINIMUM OF A 50 FOOT SIDE OR REAR SETBACK TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT ALSO HAS A 40 FOOT BUFFER YARD. OKAY. THEN C3 HAS A 40 FOOT SIDE SETBACK AND IT ALSO HAS A 30 FOOT BUFFER YARD. OKAY, OKAY, 30 FOOT BUFFER YARD, MEANING A 30 FOOT VEGETATION EASEMENT VERSUS A TEN FOOT VEGETATION EASEMENT. AND ION ONE. YES. OKAY. THANK STAFF. DOES THIS QUALIFY AS CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT SALES? MINOR CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT SALES MAJOR. SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE UP TO THE APPLICANT, BECAUSE AS YOU STATED TONIGHT, AND ALSO IN THEIR LETTER OF INTENT, THEY DON'T HAVE AN EXACT USE PINNED OUT. JUST AN IDEA. WELL, I'M THEN WHY ARE WE HERE? I CAME I CAME TO WORK TODAY TO FIGURE THIS OUT, BUT I'M NOT. THEY'RE GETTING THE ZONING. THEY'RE REQUESTING THE ZONING SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING. YEAH, THAT WILL DETERMINE WHAT THE USE IN THE END IS. WELL, THEY COULD HAVE A PET STORE. THAT'S PROBABLY ALL WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THEM TO.
IF IT'S I'M TRYING I'M TRYING TO FIGURE HOW TO SQUARE THIS VERY WEIRD PEG THAT WE BROUGHT THAT WE GOT TODAY. SO I'LL ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE NICE BECAUSE MY THERAPIST SAYS I HAVE TO BE NICE. DOES THIS DOES THE WHAT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ANTICIPATE NORTH OF THIS PARCEL? IT'S STILL PART OF THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. SO YOUR C2 OR C3 ESSENTIALLY AS IT EXISTS. YES. OKAY. THEY ARE CURRENTLY C3 JUST TO THE NORTH. NO. THEIR INDUSTRIAL LIGHT, THEIR INDUSTRIAL. THEY RECEIVED THAT ZONING BEFORE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WERE PUT INTO PLACE. BUT THE BUT BUT DESTINATION 2050 SETS IT TO COMMERCIAL. COMMERCIAL. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. LIKE C2, C3 OR C2, C3 AND C3, THEY WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST. OKAY, BECAUSE C3 ALLOWS FOR HEAVY EQUIPMENT SALES OR MINOR EQUIPMENT SALES, THEY'RE BOTH ALLOWED UNDER THAT UMBRELLA.
OKAY, CURRENTLY, IS THAT HEAVY EQUIPMENT SALES IN THE NORTH PARCEL THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE IN ON THE GRANDFATHERED IN ZONING? I WANT TO SAY YES. OR IS THAT MINOR BECAUSE THAT PRETTY BIG IT'S HEAVY. OKAY. THAT'S I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF I CAN SQUEEZE THEM DOWN INTO C1 OR C2. SO ALL RIGHT. THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ALLOWABLE USE UNDER C1 OR C2. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS. IF NO MORE QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION FOR REGULAR AGENDA NUMBER FIVE?
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I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR. ITEM NUMBER FIVE TO APPROVE A ZONING OF C3 HEAVY COMMERCIAL. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MEYER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DANILLA. ALL IN FAVOR? NO. I'M SORRY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS MOTION. CAN WE DO THAT? YOU'RE THE CHAIR. SO YOU'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. AND THEN DISCUSSION TO THE MOTION IS HOW IT WOULD USUALLY FALL IN ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. CORRECT. RIGHT. YOU WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AFTER THE MOTION. THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO RESTRICT ALLOWABLE USES. ADULT ORIENTED BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL OFF STREET PARKING, DATA CENTER, FINANCIAL SERVICES, ALTERNATIVE GAME ROOM, TRUCK STOP OR TRAVEL CENTER. TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL. RESIDENTIAL VEHICLE PARK. GAS STATION. LIMITED GASOLINE STATION. FULL SERVICE. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO RESTRICT THAT, BUT HE SAYS I CAN. THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BY THE WAY. BOARDING SCHOOL, PUBLIC SCHOOL, PRIVATE OR PAROCHIAL SCHOOL, VEHICLE STORAGE FACILITY AND PRIVATE ZOO. AND I'LL OFFER THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. OR IF IT'S NOT CONSIDERED FRIENDLY, I WILL REQUEST A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. THESE ARE THE USES LISTED IN THE BACKUP BY STAFF. SO IS THIS STILL CONSIDERED UNDER THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE? SO HE'S REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO EITHER ACCEPT IT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OR WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I'M SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. MAKER OF THE MOTION WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AS A FRIENDLY COMMISSIONER. MEYER WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT IT AS CORRECT. OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT IT, THEN YOU COULD PROCEED WITH A MOTION AND VOTE. BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE REQUESTING A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. AS I UNDERSTAND FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FIRST AND I'LL GO. I GET UNFRIENDLY AS IT GOES ON. YEAH, START START OFF FRIENDLY THEN. ALRIGHT. CAN YOU REPEAT THE CONDITIONS? THE RESTRICTED USES WOULD BE ADULT ORIENTED BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL, OFF STREET PARKING, DATA CENTER, FINANCIAL SERVICES, ALTERNATIVE GAME ROOM, TRUCK STOP OR TRAVEL CENTER, TRANSPORTATION TERMINAL, RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK. GASOLINE STATION. LIMITED GASOLINE STATION. FULL SERVICE SCHOOL. BOARDING SCHOOL. PUBLIC SCHOOL. PRIVATE OR PAROCHIAL VEHICLE STORAGE FACILITY AND ZOO. PRIVATE. THESE ARE IN THE GRID IN THE BACKUP FOR STAFF.THANK YOU. STAFF. JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THAT. SO YOU'RE STILL YOU'RE STILL SUPPORTIVE OF THE C3 MOVING TO THE C3 ZONING WITH THOSE REMOVING THOSE ALLOWABLE USES, AS YOU STATED TWICE NOW. CORRECT. I HAVEN'T VOTED ON THE MAIN MOTION YET OR THE AMENDED MOTION EITHER, BUT THAT'S STILL YOUR. THAT WOULD BE MY INTENTION, RIGHT? I'LL ACCEPT THE CONDITIONS FOR AN AMENDMENT THAT'S FRIENDLY. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT BY COMMISSIONER MYERS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? IS THAT CORRECT? DO WE OKAY. SO WE'RE JUST OKAY. SO WE'RE STILL CARRY ON WITH THE. OKAY. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MEYER, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LEDA, WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ADDED TO IT. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON. REGULAR. I THINK. CONSIDER REGULAR AGENDA. CONSIDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON REZONING APPLICATION FOR ONE LOT ON 2.74 ACRES MORE OR LESS.
AND BEING. TCAT BRAZIL 711105, ALSO KNOWN AS 19217 EASYJET STREET, MAYNARD, TEXAS FROM AGRICULTURE TO N1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMMISSIONERS, WE DO HAVE JOHN JOHNSON HERE IF
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NEEDED FOR. ANY QUESTIONS. CITY STAFF YES, THIS IS THE ITEM MENTIONED EARLIER THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO LONESTAR ELECTRIC. THIS LOT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY WITH THE INTENTION OF HAVING IT REZONED TO INDUSTRIAL LIGHT TO EXPAND THEIR OPERATIONS. THIS ALL SITS WITHIN THE MAJOR COMMERCIAL PARK, WHICH IS AN INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATED AREA. I'M SORRY.REAL QUICK, WHERE IS THIS LOCATED AT AGAIN? MINOR COMMERCIAL PARK, MAJOR COMMERCIAL PARK. SO IF YOU'RE SAY YOU'RE COMING DOWN BELTEX OFF OF 290. IF YOU MAKE THAT LEFT, THAT'S EASYJET STREET WAREHOUSE AREA OVER THERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. STAFF. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THIS. OH WAIT, I ALREADY KNOW WHEN THIS PROPERTY IS ANNEXED BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID IT WAS JUST ANNEXED. IS IT GOING TO BE GENERATING ANY REVENUE? LIKELY NOT. THEY INTEND TO USE IT FOR STORAGE OF THEIR ADDITIONAL MATERIALS. OKAY. HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS IN IN LINE WITH THAT. OR ARE WE MORE IN A COMMERCIAL AREA THAT FALLS IN LINE WITH THAT? THIS AREA IS INDICATED AS MORE OF AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER. SO YOUR WAREHOUSE, OFFICE, PARKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO HAVE HIGH CAPACITY FOR MORE EMPLOYEES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. WE'LL GET A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ADLER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? ALBERT? SORRY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STETSON. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON.
CONSIDERED DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON SUBDIVISION. PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SHADOW GLEN. PHASE THREE, SECTION THREE THROUGH EIGHT BEING 681. LOTS ON 247.03 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, AND BMT CAD. 2480 2954 7346 8045 3780 453581 5596, ALSO KNOWN MORE OR LESS I'M SORRY, ALSO KNOWN AS 14611 FRUIT GROVE COMMISSIONERS. WE DO HAVE BRANDON HAMMOND HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. STAFF I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, PROBABLY FOR MISS GRAY. IT'S I'M BACK TO ATLAS 14. LIFE IS. WHAT'S SHOWN ON HERE IS THAT ATLAS 14 IS THAT THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED FLOODPLAIN FOR FEMA, OR IS THAT FLOODPLAIN WITH ENGINEERING EXPECTATION OR ANTICIPATED CHANGES BASED ON ENGINEERING DESIGN OF THE AREA? THE DESIGN EVERYTHING WAS BASED ON ATLAS 14. OKAY. TYPICALLY FOR PRELIMINARY PLATS THEY DON'T SHOW LIKE THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN, BUT ON THE PLATS IT WOULD AND IT WOULD STILL BE LABELED THE 100 YEAR FEMA FLOODPLAIN UNTIL ATLAS 14 IS ACCEPTED. BUT NO, THEY'VE THEY'VE DONE ATLAS 14 BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON A BRIDGE. OKAY. SO FEMA BECAUSE I SAW THE I SEE THE FEMA LINE AND IT'S RIGHT THERE NEXT TO WHAT I'M SURE IS GOING TO BE THOSE WROUGHT IRON FENCES ALONG THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT. SO I'M JUST ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, LIKE RIGHT THERE. WE'RE KIND OF LIKE THEY'RE ACTUALLY NUDGES. THEY'RE GOING TO SUBMIT. I CAN'T REMEMBER, IT'S A PLUMBER OR A LOOMER TO FEMA TO TAKE STUFF OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND THAT IS REQUIRED. THEY'RE WORKING WITH TRAVIS COUNTY BECAUSE THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO THE CITY REVIEWS THE PRELIMINARIES FOR SHADOW GLEN, ALL THE STUFF FOR SHADOW GLEN, BUT SO DOES TRAVIS COUNTY. SO THIS HAS ALREADY GONE RIGHT TO COMMISSIONERS COURT IN TRAVIS COUNTY AND HAS BEEN APPROVED. SO THE NEXT STEP WAS FOR ME TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN. OKAY. SO IT'S LIKE A JOINT REVIEW. AND AS YOU KNOW, TRAVIS COUNTY HAS GOT PRETTY STRICT RULES WHEN IT COMES TO FLOODPLAIN. AND YEAH, I WAS THERE IN 2013 NOT THERE.
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BUT ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THIS THIS CONFORMS TO OUR OBVIOUSLY IT'S NON-DISCRETIONARY. AND YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A LETTER IN THE BACKUP STATING THAT THIS CONFORMS TO OUR. YES. IT FOLLOWS ALL OF THE CITY ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR PULMONARY PLATS AND LOTS 43 OR 30, 38 THROUGH 43 ARE GOING TO BE FINE. SHOULD BE FINE. YES.THEY'RE ACTUALLY WHEN THEY GET TO THAT PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THEY'RE GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT THEY DID IN PHASE TWO WHERE THOSE ARE DEVELOPED LAST. OKAY. BECAUSE THOSE TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH FEMA AND WHATNOT. SO AND YOU HAVE TO CARRY INSURANCE FOR YOUR LOTS UNTIL THEY COME OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN.
OFFICIALLY. YES. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. STEPH, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE OR VERSUS THE VALUE. SO SINCE THERE'S NOT OF COURSE, PARKLAND SHOWN ON THE PLAT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, SHADOW HAS A VERY OLD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT HAS CERTAIN ITEMS AND THINGS SET INTO PLACE. ONE OF THOSE BEING THE $250 PER LOT. AND WITH THIS BEING, EXCUSE ME, 681 LOTS. IF MY MATH DOESN'T FAIL ME, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $170,250. THAT WOULD BE FOR PHASE THREE, SECTIONS THREE THROUGH EIGHT. THE AMENITY CENTER THERE IN PHASE THREE, THOUGH, WILL NOT BE PUBLISHED. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC PUBLIC PARK LAND. IT'S JUST A PRIVATE AMENITY CENTER FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE HOA. CORRECT. THEY'RE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL LOTS, BUT IT IS PRIMARILY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS SPECIFIC PORTION OF THE SUBDIVISION.
IT'LL HAVE, LIKE, LIMITED ACCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SCROLL ME A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT WAS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AS I'VE NEVER LOOKED AT IT DIRECTLY, BUT. CAN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT SORT OF TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN DONE, EITHER BY US OR TRAVIS COUNTY, FOR THESE PHASES SPECIFICALLY? POORLY, OR WE DO HAVE THE ACTUAL ENGINEERS HERE AS WELL. PERFECT. SPEAK TO IT FURTHER. JUST WE JUST NEED YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME. SURE.
BRANDON HAMMOND WITH MERITAGE HOMES, I'M NOT THE ENGINEER, SO KATIE CIVIL IS OUR APPLICANT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, PEGGY, WHO'S WITH KATIE CIVIL, SHE HAD A PRIVATE PERSONAL ISSUE THAT SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. SO AS FAR AS THE TIA GOES, YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY HAD A TIA DONE.
IT WAS APPROVED BACK IN I THINK LATE 22, EARLY 23. SO WE HAVE A PHASED AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
THERE'S MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WE'LL HAVE TO CONSTRUCT AS PART OF THAT APPROVED TIA. BUT YEAH, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN VETTED BY TRAVIS COUNTY TO THAT TRAVIS COUNTY HAD DONE. YES, SIR. 2223 SOMETIME IN THERE. YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT WAS FOR THIS PHASE OR THAT WAS FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. IT'S FOR SECTION THREE THROUGH EIGHT. AND JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THIS IS A REVISION TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN. OKAY.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. THERE'S SOME BUBBLE CHANGES ON HERE. YES SIR. YEAH.
YEAH. SO THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND THE CITY I THINK IT WAS LATE 24. PAULINE. YEAH.
LATE 24. YEAH. SO. YEAH. SO JUST WANT TO PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION FOR THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU SIR. NO PROBLEM. COMMISSIONER ROBERT, FOR YOUR REFERENCE, IT'S THE SCALLOPED AREA THERE IN SECTION THREE A AND THEN THE LITTLE SCALLOPED AREAS THERE IN THE LOWER RIGHT OF THE PLAT. GOTCHA. THANKS. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? MAY I ATTAIN A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THIS ITEM. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MIRE. DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TERRY? ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOVING ON. NUMBER EIGHT, CONSIDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO REMOVE HERITAGE TREES IN MAYNARD DOWN INDUSTRIAL PROJECT BEING A 29. INCH, 29 INCH PECAN
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TREE IDENTIFIED AS NUMBER 5019 IN THE TREE SURVEY FOR SAID PROJECT AND BEING LOCATED AT 8916 HILL LANE, MAYNARD, TEXAS. COMMISSIONERS WE DO HAVE. TIM CRAFTON AND MICHAEL KORN HERE FOR IF WE NEED QUESTIONS ANSWERED. CITY STAFF. YES, THIS ITEM WAS AT LAST MONTH'S PNC MEETING, BUT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR POSTPONEMENT BY COMMISSIONER MEYER TO GIVE THE APPLICANT OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND KIND OF SHOW A BIT OF THE DUE DILIGENCE THEY COMPLETED THAT BROUGHT THEM TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THE TREE IN QUESTION CANNOT BE PRESERVED OR RELOCATED. SO THEY ARE HERE TO. YES. CAN WE HEAR WHY IT CANNOT BE THAT FOR? MY NAME IS MAGGIE CARREON AND I'M WITH BOWMAN. DO YOU GUYS HAVE THE CONSTRAINTS MAP EXHIBIT? SORRY THAT YOU.OKAY? YES. OKAY. SO WE CREATED THIS CONSTRAINTS MAP EXHIBIT TO SHOW YOU ALL OF THE EXISTING UTILITIES, PROPOSED UTILITIES, EASEMENTS THAT REQUIRE US TO PUT THE POND WHERE IT IS. SO THE MAJOR CONSTRAINT HERE IS THESE FOUR EXISTING GAS LINES, WHICH TAKES UP A HUGE CHUNK OF THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE SITE. SO OUR BUILDINGS ARE GRADED SUCH THAT DRAINAGE FLOWS AWAY FROM THE BUILDING EITHER TO THE EAST OR WEST SIDE. SO ON THE WESTERN SIDE OUR DRAINAGE GOES TO THIS POND THAT DISCHARGES TO A CULVERT HERE. AND THEN SIMILARLY HERE WE HAVE A NETWORK OF DRAINAGE PIPES THAT DISCHARGE TO THIS POND, WHICH ULTIMATELY DISCHARGES OVER HERE TO THIS CULVERT. SO DRAINAGE IS NATURALLY AT THE LOWEST SPOT ON THE SITE, WHICH IS WHERE WE PROPOSE OUR POND. AND IF WE WERE TO PUT OUR POND ANYWHERE ELSE HERE, WE COULDN'T BECAUSE OF ALL THE HATCHED AREAS. THERE'S ROADWAYS. WE HAVE A MANVILLE WATER LINE THAT CROSSES HERE. WE ALSO HAVE A FORCEMAIN. SO THIS GREEN HATCH WASTEWATER LINE CROSSING, WE ALSO HAVE A GAS LINE IN THIS BLUE HATCH. AND THESE ROADWAYS HERE THAT CONNECT TO THE SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLANS HERE. SO IF I'M CORRECT, THAT BIG CIRCLE ON THE BOTTOM IS THE PECAN TREE. IS THAT CORRECT? TREE ID 5019. THE 29 INCH PECAN TREE. THAT IS CORRECT. AND IT IS IN THAT I'M ASSUMING IS AN EASEMENT RIGHT THERE. IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT'S SHOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DETENTION POND. AND WE SIZED THE DETENTION POND. AND IT'S IT TAKES UP ACTUALLY AS MUCH SPACE AS IT CAN WITHOUT ENCROACHING ON THE, THE GAS EASEMENT THERE. BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG SITE. SO IT REQUIRES A LOT OF DETENTION. SO IT'S SHOWN IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DETENTION POND. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHICH ONE CAME FIRST, THE TREE SURVEY OR THE PLAN ON WHERE THE BUILDINGS WERE GOING TO GO? I MEAN, WHICH ONE CAME FIRST? DID YOU DO THE BUILDING PLAN FIRST AND THEN DO THE TREE SURVEY? THE TREE SURVEY WAS FIRST. IT WAS DONE IN 2021, AND THEN THE BUILDING PLAN HAS BEEN MODIFIED OVER THE YEARS. SO THIS IS THE LATEST BUILDING PLAN. BUT THE TREE SURVEY WAS FIRST. SO THEY COULDN'T HAVE ARRANGED THE TREES AND THE TREES, BUT THE BUILDINGS DIFFERENTLY TO WORK AROUND THE TREE, SINCE YOU ALREADY KNEW THE TREE EXISTED. ALREADY. SO PREVIOUSLY THE SITE WAS LOCATED IN TRAVIS COUNTY, CITY OF AUSTIN, ETJ AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY TREE REGULATIONS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. ETJ SO THAT
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IS WHY THE BUILDING LAYOUT IS HOW IT IS. BUT HOLD ON, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S TREE REGULATIONS DID NOT EXTEND BEYOND THEIR CITY LIMITS, SO IN THE ETJ THEY DID NOT HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION IN THE ETJ. OKAY. ONLY FOR LIMITED PURPOSE. THANK YOU. OKAY. IS I'M THINKING OF THE NO HIGHER, NO WIDER. I'M WONDERING IS THERE'S NO WAY TO DO A NO DEEPER, NO THINNER DRAINAGE EASEMENT IN THAT AREA. NO. SO LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, THIS IS A 146 ACRE SITE WITH EVEN MORE ACRES. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT 146 ACRES, MA'AM. WE'RE GOING TO STAY CONFINED TO THE LITTLE MAGENTA CORNER IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT WHERE THE BIG RED DOT IS. THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE THAT POLYGON SMALLER BY, LIKE, INTENSIFYING THE DRAINAGE FACILITIES IN THAT. IN THAT SECTION. NO, IT WAS REQUIRED TO BE THAT LARGE TO DETAIN THE AMOUNT OF WATER COMING THROUGH BECAUSE OF ALL THE IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE SITE. YEAH, ACTUALLY, WE HAD TO ASSUME FULLY DEVELOPED CONDITION UPSTREAM ACCORDING TO THE DRAINAGE CRITERIA MANUAL. SO THAT ACTUALLY ADDED A LOT OF FLOW COMING ON TO OUR SITE, BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE UPSTREAM AREAS THAT ARE FLOWING DOWN. TO THIS POINT. SO CONSIDERING OFF SITE, FULLY DEVELOPED CONDITIONS THAT ADDED FLOWS. COULD COULD THE THIS LOT HAVE BEEN SWAPPED OUT WITH THE LOT THAT WAS IS PROPOSED FOR PARKLAND? SO IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE PROPOSED THE LOT ON SITE PLAN A AS PARKLAND. SO THAT'S PER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LOT SEVEN I BELIEVE ON SITE PLAN A IS THE PARKLAND LOT. THAT'S OKAY. SO THE THE ANSWER IS IT COULD BE. BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS AGREED ON PREVIOUSLY THAT YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO. WELL ALSO THESE LOTS ARE MUCH DIFFERENT IN SIZE. THE LOT ON SITE PLAN A IS ABOUT NINE ACRES, AND THIS LOT IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO 40. SO THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT SIZES. MA'AM, WE SUBDIVIDED THIS PARCEL FOR YOU, AM I CORRECT? WAS THIS A IS THIS A SINGLE PARCEL THAT CAME IN AND WAS SUBDIVIDED BY US WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS? OKAY, SO WE CREATED THOSE LOTS ON THIS DAIS WITHIN THE LAST NINE MONTHS. SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO KIND OF THE STATEMENT THERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DEMISING ABOUT THE WHITE BOX, THE POLYGON IN THE BOTTOM LEFT.WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT VERSUS LOT SEVEN. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO A LAND SWAP TO SAVE YOU $1 MILLION AND HOW TO HOW TO WE WE FIGURE THIS OUT. WE CAN'T DO A LAND SWAP BECAUSE WE DON'T WE CAN'T TAKE THIS. AND YOU'RE SAYING TO FLIP THAT OVER TO WHERE THE PARKLAND AREA PUT THAT OVER IN THE PARKLAND. YOU GAVE US THE GARBAGE LOT OR WHATEVER? IS THAT KIND OF WHAT IT IS? OH, OKAY. WE WORKED OKAY. SORRY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TIM CRAFTON WITH DOLPHIN INDUSTRIAL. WE'RE THE OWNER AND WE'RE YOUR PARTNER IN THIS IN THIS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF OF MANER ON THIS WHEN WE FIRST AND WE'RE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. SO WE'RE YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE OUTSIDERS HERE. WE OWN CITY OF MANER PROPERTY. AND SO THE PARTNERSHIP PIECE IS WHEN WE CAME IN AND PRESENTED THIS TO THE MAYOR AND TO COUNCIL, WE INITIALLY THOUGHT, HEY, HERE'S OUR SITE PLAN, HERE'S HOW WE THINK WE CAN MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT WORK. AND IF WE CAN'T GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE CAN'T GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BUILDINGS. WE CAN'T EVEN WE CAN'T EVEN MAKE IT WORK. SO THAT KIND OF GOES TO FEASIBILITY. SO IS IT IS IT FEASIBLE? OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, FEASIBILITY IS LIKE, WELL, COULD YOU MAKE EVERYTHING GOLD PLATED? IT'S LIKE AT SOME POINT IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S COST TOO MUCH. SO AT SOME POINT LOSING A BUILDING OR LOSING SIGNIFICANT SQUARE FOOTAGE IN A BUILDING, THE DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T BECOME FEASIBLE ANYMORE. SO IN ORDER TO DO THIS PROJECT ALONGSIDE THE CITY OF MANER, WE INITIALLY THOUGHT THAT WE COULD DEDICATE. WE SAID, HEY, WE THINK WE HAVE FIVE ACRES OVER HERE THAT FITS, THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN DEDICATE FOR PARKLAND ONCE WE GOT TO THE END OF THIS PROCESS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE INITIALLY PROMISED AND CAME UP WITH THAT COUNCIL WAS
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AGREEABLE TO. WE FINISHED AT RIGHT ABOUT NINE ACRES, SO WE ALMOST DOUBLED WHAT WE ORIGINALLY SAID THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DEDICATE FOR PARKLAND. NO, WE'RE NOT GIVING SCRUB AREA. WE'RE GIVING THE AREA THAT'S ACTUALLY CLOSEST TO THE CITY. IT'S GOING TO BE ACTUALLY THE FLATTEST. IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO HAVE DRAINAGE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF FOR IT. SO NO, YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T TAKE A 40 ACRE PARCEL AND FIT IT INTO A NINE ACRE PARCEL.NO, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T DO THAT. MR. BURRELL, DO YOU KNOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? BECAUSE I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING THIS SCREEN, AND I, I, I GUESS I CAN PULL IT UP ON THE BACKUP. DO YOU KNOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING ON THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER? IT'S TWO SOMETHING, TWO ACRES? NO, 200 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. LOOKS TO BE ABOUT 248,000. TWO 4250 OKAY, SO WE'RE TALKING FIVE ACRES. IS THAT CORRECT? WHATEVER THAT MATH WORKS OUT TO. DOES ANYBODY KNOW IT'S 40,000FT■!S IN AN ACR? 43. FIVE, 60 DIVIDED BY. YEAH. TIMES. OKAY, PERFECT. SO WE'RE TALKING. YEAH. FIVE, SIX ACRES, FIVE AND A HALF ACRES HERE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, IS NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE 40. THAT'S WHY WE HAD. THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING SHE'S NOT LISTENING TO US. SHE'S NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION WE ASKED. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE. THE WHOLE PARCEL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL A MONTH AGO.
ANYWAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT EXACT BUILDING THERE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. IS THAT ABLE TO BE YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S NOT ABLE TO BE USED ON THE FLAT SECTION OF THE OF THE PARCEL AND JUST HAVE US KIND OF. YOU MEAN HAVE THE PARKLAND AREA IS. YES. IN THE AREA THAT'S DEDICATED OR SET ASIDE AS PARKLAND, POSSIBLY ON A ON A NINE ACRE SITE? WE COULD MAYBE ON THAT SITE WE COULD FIT 75,000FT, MAYBE ON THAT ON THE PIECE OF PARKLAND THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE DEDICATING. YEAH. SO YEAH. SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIT A BUILDING THAT'S MAYBE A THIRD THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING. SO WE WOULD LOSE. IS THAT BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING AROUND IT THAT HAS TO MAKE IT WORK. YOU IT'S NOT JUST THIS BUILDING. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE TRUCK COURT. YOU GOT TO HAVE DRIVE AISLES. YOU GOT TO HAVE PARKING. YEAH. YOU GOT TO HAVE DETENTION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO WE NEED THIS ACREAGE FOR THIS BUILDING. CORRECT.
VERSUS IF IT WAS THE PARKLAND AREA, IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE WHAT WE WOULD HAVE. OKAY. AND YOU WOULD NOT PROCEED IF THAT WAS THE CASE. I'M SORRY. YOU WOULD NOT PROCEED WITH THIS. IT WOULD. IT WOULD MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THIS TO PENCIL. YEAH, IT WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE CRIPPLING TO US. THANK YOU. YEAH. THERE'S A FEW OTHER JUST KIND OF DATA POINTS. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET OUT THERE FOR, FOR THE GROUP A FEW OF THE BENEFITS.
AND I THINK THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED ON SINCE WE'VE BEEN ANNEXED AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD OUR SITE PLAN APPROVED AND THAT, THAT SORT OF THING BY COUNCIL, I'LL RATTLE THROUGH THESE QUICKLY. ECONOMIC BENEFIT. IT'S A NET PLUS $25 MILLION TO THIS TO THE CITY OF MAYNOR. WE WE DO GET A LITTLE BIT OF TAX RELIEF BECAUSE WHEN WE ANNEXED INTO MAYNOR, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, WHEN WE ANNEXED IN WE TOOK ON MAINERS TAX. WHEN WE WERE IN AUSTIN AND AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT TAX AT ALL. SO THAT'S JUST A NEW TAX THAT COMES ON TO US. WE HAVE COMPETITORS THAT ARE LITERALLY NEXT DOOR TO US, THAT ARE IN THE AUSTIN ETJ THAT DO HAVE ZERO MAYNOR TAX. AND SO THE THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT WE GOT WAS SO THAT WE COULD COMPETE AT LEAST LONG ENOUGH, 3 TO 5 YEARS WITH THOSE FOLKS THAT WEREN'T PAYING THAT TAX ON LEASE RATES. SO WE COULD JUST HAVE AN APPLES TO APPLES LEASE RATE. SO WE GET SOME BENEFIT FOR THAT, WHICH SEEMS EXTREMELY FAIR TO ME. PLUS, MAYNOR GETS PLUS 25 IN THAT EQUATION. AND THAT EQUATION DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY CALCULATIONS FOR JOBS THAT THIS WOULD BRING FOR VARIOUS REASONS. SO THAT'S NOT EVEN FACTORED IN. SO ECONOMIC BENEFIT PARKLAND DEDICATION ALREADY COVERED. WE ORIGINALLY STARTED AT FIVE. WE GOT TO WE GOT TO RIGHT ABOUT NINE. SAFETY AND REVITALIZATION. YOU KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD THE BROKEN WINDOW THEORY. YOU KNOW WHEN WHEN THEY WOULD FIX BROKEN WINDOWS IN AREAS OF TOWN, THAT AREA OF TOWN IT GOT SAFER RISING TIDE LIFTS, LIFTS, ALL BOATS, NEW ROADS. WE'RE BUILDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF NEW ROADS. THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT. IT'S NOT THEY'RE NOT PRIVATE ROADS. THEY'RE PUBLIC ROADS. AND MOST OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IS ACTUALLY NORTH OF THIS SITE THAT RUNS THROUGH A PIECE OF PROPERTY UP HERE. IT GOES, IT GOES NORTH, AND THEN IT GOES UP WEST ON HOWARD LANE TO TO 130. SO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF ROADS
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THERE THAT WILL ULTIMATELY RELIEVE TRAFFIC ON ON GREGG MANOR. ONCE THAT CONNECTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH, IT'LL BE A THOROUGHFARE THAT THE PUBLIC WILL ABSOLUTELY BE ABLE TO USE DOWN THROUGH HILL LANE. AND THEN I WOULD SAY, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, HERE, A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT THAT WE'RE BRINGING. WE HAVE POOR QUALITY DRAINAGE ON THIS SITE.IT DOESN'T DRAIN WELL. WE HAVE INVASIVE PLANT SPECIES. AND BASICALLY WHAT THOSE DO IS THEY THEY GROW FAST AND THEY GROW BIG AND THEY CLOG UP DRAINAGE, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE POOR DRAINAGE ON THE SITE. AND THEN ON ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT, WE NOT ONLY HAVE THOSE BENEFITS, WE'RE BRINGING TREMENDOUS TREE BENEFIT RIGHT NOW. LET ME LOOK AT MY STATS 100 AND. 192 OF THE 244 TREES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE SITE DON'T REQUIRE ANY, ANY, ANY MITIGATION AT ALL FOR REMOVAL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON MAINERS PREFERRED PLANTING LIST. THEY AREN'T LARGE ENOUGH OR BOTH. SO FOR EVERYTHING THAT DOES REQUIRE MITIGATION, WE'RE MITIGATING. SO IF IT REQUIRES A3X OR A5X. SO IF YOU'VE GOT A TREE THAT FALLS UNDER THE MITIGATION CATEGORY AND THE CODE SAYS, HEY, THIS TREE, YOU GOT TO MITIGATE FOR THIS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT, IT'S EITHER THREE TIMES THE DIAMETER OF THE TREE OR FIVE TIMES THE DIAMETER OF THE TREE, DEPENDING ON HOW BIG IT IS, WHAT KIND OF TREE IT IS WE'RE DOING THAT THAT'S THAT'S ALL BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR. ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE OF COURSE MEETING CODE ON ANY OTHER TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED IN ADDITION TO THE MITIGATION, ONLY 25 OF THE 244 TREES CURRENTLY ON THE SITE ARE CURRENTLY ON MAINERS PREFERRED PLANTING LIST. ONLY 25 OF THE TREES WE ARE PLANTING 1000 AS OF THE SITE PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY SUBMITTED. WE'RE PLANTING 1444 TREES ON THIS SITE, ALL 1444 TREES ON THIS SITE ARE ON MAINERS PREFERRED PLANTING LIST. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM 25 TREES THAT MAINER LIKES TO 1444 ON THIS SITE. TREE HEALTH. WE HAVEN'T HAD AN ARBORIST STUDY DONE ON THESE 244 TREES. TYPICALLY, WE'LL ONLY DO THAT IF WE THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A TREE PROBLEM SO WE CAN SHOW HEALTH OF THE TREES. WE DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS GOING TO BE A TREE PROBLEM. WE WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE FOR FOR ALL 244, WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, BUT ONE IF WE COULD LEVITATE THIS TREE IN THE AIR AND IT WASN'T IN THE LOW SPOT, WE WOULD DO IT. WE JUST WE JUST CAN'T. WE'VE WE'VE DONE IT WHERE WE CAN OTHER PLACES. I THINK THERE'S 35 TREES OUT OF THE 244 THAT WE ARE SAVING THAT WE AREN'T TOUCHING. SO IT WASN'T ZERO. IT'S ABOUT 15%. I WISH IT WAS MORE IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS. IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE CODE AND MITIGATING FOR IT. WE'RE DOING WHAT THE CODE SAYS WE SHOULD DO. WE JUST HAVE THIS ONE THAT WE HAVE CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE EXTRAORDINARY. BUT IF WE WANT IF WE DID AN ARBORIST STUDY. SO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE 244, AS WE'RE MITIGATING, WE'RE DOING FULL MITIGATION THREE TIMES, FIVE TIMES WE'RE WE'RE PAYING FULL PRICE FULL BOAT. WE'RE DOING FULL LANDSCAPING. AS IF ALL 244 OF THOSE TREES WERE IN PERFECT HEALTH. WELL, THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT ALL IN PERFECT HEALTH BECAUSE THE DENSITY OF TREES IS SO LOW PER ACRE, 244 TREES, OVER 147 ACRES. YOU CAN DO THE MATH. A TREE AND A HALF PER ACRE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY'RE EXPOSED TO WIND, SUN, RAIN MORE THAN THEY WOULD BE IF THEY'RE IN A FOREST. SO IT'S LIKELY THAT IT'S UPWARDS OF 25% OF THE TREES THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE ARE DEAD OR DYING, YET WE'RE MITIGATING AND REPLACING AS IF THEY'RE ALL IN PERFECTLY GOOD HEALTH. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE ADDING 1444 TREES AS OUR AS OF OUR CURRENT SUBMITTAL THAT WE HAVE INTO THE CITY, WE'RE ASSUMING THEY'RE ALL IN GREAT HEALTH AND THEY'RE NOT. SO WE'RE EXCEEDING WE'RE EXCEEDING. THERE A COUPLE MORE THINGS AND I'LL AND I'LL STOP.
SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S PROBABLY IT. I WOULD JUST END BY SAYING WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. WE'VE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GET TO THIS POINT. WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE A GOOD PARTNER. WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE WE'RE BRINGING A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO THE CITY, AND WE FEEL LIKE THE CITIES AGREE WITH US. THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. WE NEED YOUR HELP ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS IS ONE WE NEED HELP ON. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE WE'VE MORE THAN ACCOUNTED FOR IT. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD REASONABLY DO, WE WOULD DO IT.
AND AS WE HAVE IN EVERY OTHER CASE, HERE'S ANOTHER. FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE REQUIRED 913,000FT■!S BY CODE OF LANDSCAE AREA. WE ARE PROVIDING. LET ME GET THIS NUMBER RIGHT. I THINK IT'S OVER TWO POINT 5,000,000FT. IT'S IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 273% OF WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED BY CODE TO PROVIDE ON LANDSCAPING. SO THERE'S ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT THAT WE'RE BRINGING
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THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING. WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE ALMOST THREE X THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE'RE REQUIRED. BUT WE ARE. SO I'LL I'LL STOP THERE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS THEM. MR. TIM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YOU DID TALK ABOUT UPGRADING ROADS. WHAT IS THE UPGRADING FOR HILL LANE EVEN? I MEAN, THAT'S THE MILLION DOLLAR. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO OUR OUR TIA WAS FOR THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE ROAD THAT EXTENDS UP TO THE NORTH AND THEN GOES OVER TO THE WEST. THIS IS HOWARD UP HERE. IT GOES TO THE WEST ON HOWARD AND CONNECTS INTO 130 OVER HERE. SO WE ARE BUILDING AN AN RTI, OUR ORIGINAL TIA WITH TRAVIS COUNTY. WE COMMITTED TO BUILD THIS PART OF THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE. AND THEN THERE'S A AUSTIN AND THERE'S AN AWU SANITARY SEWER PROJECT THAT'S TAKEN YEARS TO COME TO FRUITION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AT ALL IN THAT OR NOT, BUT WE ACTUALLY PUT IT TOGETHER. AND THEN BY A COMPLICATED CONFLUENCE OF EVENTS, WE WE COULDN'T BE A PART OF IT. BUT WE'VE GRANTED EASEMENTS FOR IT. THAT PROJECT IS IS IMPROVING HILL LANE TO LIKE IT'S HARD IT'S HARD TO SHOW ON THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW. BUT IT'S IT'S IMPROVING IT ALMOST TO OUR PROPERTY LINE. NOT QUITE. SO THAT PROJECT WILL. SO IT'LL BE FULLY IMPROVED, NOT QUITE TO OUR PROPERTY. AND THEN THIS IS A IS A SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT DEVELOPER DOWN HERE CALLED GOOD AND WEST. AND THEY ARE CLOSED. THEY ARE PART OF THE GROUP THAT'S GOING TO USE THAT SEWER LINE THAT'S COMING IN. THEY ARE CLOSING I THINK LATER THIS WEEK ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. GOOD. AND WEST HAS IT IN THEIR TIA TO FINISH THE REST OF HILL LANE.SO WHEN THEY DEVELOP THEY'LL FINISH THE REST OF HILL LANE. SO OUR PLAN BECAUSE WE DON'T WE CAN'T COUNT ON EXACTLY WHEN THEY'RE DEVELOPED. THE FACT THAT THEY'RE CLOSING IS IS REALLY GOOD NEWS. BUT OUR PLAN IS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS PROPERTY OWNER TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THIS ROAD UP HERE. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS AT THE SAME TIME, AND WE'LL BE CONNECTED ALL THE WAY INTO 130.
AND THEN JUST AS SOON AS HILL LANE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, IMPROVED PER THE TIA THAT TRAVIS COUNTY HAS FOR THIS LANDOWNER WILL BE ALL ABOUT IT. BUT THE SANITARY SEWER PROJECT THAT THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE ROAD MOST OF THE WAY TO OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARY THAT'S STARTING, WE THINK EARLY Q2 OF NEXT YEAR AND SHOULD BE IN 9 TO 12 MONTH PROJECT. SO IT'LL BE IF YOU THINK OF HILL LANE, YOU KNOW, AS A WHOLE, THREE QUARTERS OF IT SHOULD BE DONE 15 MONTHS FROM NOW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN THE REST OF IT WILL BE DONE ONCE GOOD AND WEST COMPLETES THEIR TIA HERE. WELL, AND I THINK MY QUESTION IS KNOWING HILL LANE AND BEING A PERSON THAT GOES TO THE CHURCH THAT'S ON HILL LANE, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS DOES TAKE LARGE VEHICLES TO TO DO. AND FOR SOME OF US THAT COME FROM THE TOLL ROAD ON, I THINK IT'S CRAIG MAYNOR BACK THERE THAT IS LIKE YOU NEED A 4X4 TO DRIVE. THAT'S CRAZY. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE LIVE IN THOSE APARTMENTS, GO TO CHURCH THERE, EVEN THE SCHOOL. HOW DOES HILL LANE NOT TURN INTO THAT ALMOST GRAND CANYON LOOKING LIKE THAT, SO THAT WE COULD BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE IF IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE BRAND NEW. THE ROAD'S GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED, YOU KNOW, PER WHERE IT'S THE CITY OF MAYNOR ROAD, PER CITY MANER STANDARDS AND WHERE IT'S TRAVIS COUNTY ROAD PER TRAVIS COUNTY AND AND OR TXDOT STANDARDS, IT'LL IT'LL GO FROM I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S GOING TO GO TO A 62 FOOT OR A 67 FOOT RIGHT AWAY. OH, PAULINE PROBABLY KNOWS WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS. 64, 64. DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH IS NOW. 50 IN SOME AREAS. SO UP TO 50 PROBABLY ABOUT RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO GET WIDER. NICER, BETTER. SHOULD BE BRAND NEW AND IT SHOULDN'T BE I THINK THERE WAS AN OVERLAY DONE NOT THAT LONG AGO BY THE CITY TO KIND OF PUT A BAND AID ON IT. AND IT WON'T BE THAT SITUATION. IT'LL BE A FULL DEPTH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ANSWER. YOU JUST SAID RIGHT THERE THE BAND AID.
YEAH. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SURE. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL
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RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. TIM. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, CAN I GET A MOTION? WILL MOVE TO ADVANCE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE REMOVAL OF THE HERITAGE TREE OF MAYNARD DOWNS INDUSTRIAL PROJECT. BEING A 29 INCH PECAN TREE IDENTIFIED AS TREE NUMBER 5019 AND THE TREE SURVEY FOR THE PROJECT AND BEING LOCATED AT 8916 HILL LANE IN MAYNARD. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STETSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSIONS. THE REASON FOR THIS MOTION IS NOT BECAUSE WE ENJOY PUTTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE WRINGER OVER A SINGLE TREE, BUT BUT TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT OF THE JENGA PIECES, OF THIS PUZZLE OF HOW TO HOW TO GET A PROJECT THAT HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTS TO IT TOGETHER AND MOVE IT FORWARD AND AND NOT HAVE AN AND AND TO KIND OF TAKE THE HOLISTIC APPROACH OF OF WHAT ARE WE GETTING FROM IT VERSUS WHAT ARE WE LOSING. AND, AND I KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND IN THIS COMMUNITY, AS MR. PIZER OR EVEN CHAIR CHAVIS DOES. VICE CHAIR CHAVIS DOES. BUT I VALUE THIS COMMUNITY AND ITS HISTORICAL CONNECTION HERE, ESPECIALLY TO THIS PARCEL AND ITS FORMER USES. I DO APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THAT THERE WILL NOW BE MORE THAN 3000 CALIPER INCHES ADDED TO THE PROPERTY. AND IN ADDITION TO IT, WHICH IS FAR MORE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THAN WHAT WAS THERE AT THE CURRENT STATE WHEN IT WAS PLANNED FOR REDEVELOPMENT.SO THAT GIVES ME SOME COMFORT. I'M ON PROPERTY THAT HAD NO TREES ON IT UNTIL MY TWO LITTLE LIVE OAKS WERE PLANTED WITHIN FIVE FEET OF EACH OTHER BY MY DEVELOPER. AND THEN I MOVED ONE TO THE BACKYARD WITH A NICE HOA APPROVAL AS IT WAS HAPPENING AS SHE DROVE BY. BUT SO I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE A LOT OF OUR BLACKLAND SOIL, IT IT'S HARD TO GET GOOD TREES OR TREES THAT ARE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE, OR VEGETATION WE WANT TO HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL HAVE MORE THAN JUST A SINGLE TREE THAT FLOURISHES ON THIS PROPERTY THAT CAN BECOME A 29 INCH PECAN OR LIVE OAK, OR PREFERRED TREE. MAYBE NOT IN THE NEXT 15 YEARS, BUT PERHAPS IN THE NEXT 50. SO I'M THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF THIS ONE TREE. AS MUCH AS I KNOW THIS PAINS A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ON OUR COMMISSION, SO THANK YOU. THAT'S SORRY FOR PUTTING EVERYONE THROUGH THE WRINGER ON THIS ONE, BUT THANK YOU. ANY MORE COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOVING ON. CONSIDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 2026 SUBDIVISION CALENDAR. WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT? WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE MOTION? OH, MOTION IS A TIE DOESN'T PASS. CORRECT. YEAH. FAILS. YEAH. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. MOVING ON.
CONSIDERING DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE 2026 SUBDIVISION CALENDAR. STAN. YES, THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR. JUST INDICATING OUR SUBDIVISION SHOT CLOCK, PENS, DATES, HOLIDAYS. SPEAKING OF HOLIDAYS, THE VETERANS DAY FOR 2026, OUR PNC MEETING FALLS ON THAT. SO IF WE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THAT. WELL, I DID SEE THAT ONE. I THOUGHT I SAW ANOTHER ONE. WHEN I GUESS CITY STAFF, WHAT WOULD BE THE PREFERRED? THEY RECOMMEND THE 10TH. THE 10TH. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THE CALENDAR.
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I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MEYER. DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TERRY? ANY COMMENTS TO THE MOTION AND COMMENTS TO MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES. I HAVE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AT 749. HOLD ON. I HAVE A REQUEST FOR INQUIRY. I GUESS I DO HAVE THAT TO. WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE 10TH? YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO TO MOVE IT TO THE 10TH. YEAH. THAT'S COMMISSIONERS. I WAS ONE OF THE VOTES IN FAVOR. I MOVED THAT WE RECALL THE RECONSIDER. PARDON ME. RECONSIDER. OH NOT RECALL. I MOVE THAT WE RECONSIDER. ITEM TEN. ITEM NINE. I HAVE A MOTION.IS IT A MOTION TO RECONSIDER? OH, MOTION IS TO. RECONSIDER. RECONSIDER. ITEM NINE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TERRY. NOW WE CAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR. OKAY. OPPOSED? OH. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER. I'D LIKE TO RECONSIDER. WELL, NOW THAT WE'VE RECONSIDERED ITEM NINE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE 2026 SUBDIVISION CALENDAR WITH A MODIFIED MEETING DATE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO FALL ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH AT 6:30 P.M. IN LIEU OF THE ORIGINALLY OF THE TYPICALLY SCHEDULED NOVEMBER 11TH MEETING. DUE TO THE HOLIDAY TIME 6:30 P.M. ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH, 2026, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STETSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES, SIR. QUESTION TO THE MOTION. IS THAT NOT WHAT IT'S ALREADY SHOWING? NO, SIR.
I. STAFF, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT BACKUP? NO IT IS, IT IS INDEED. WHAT? IT'S HARD TO SAY. NEVER MIND. I THINK IT WAS PREEMPTIVELY CORRECTED. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY IT WASN'T THAT. I WAS GOING TO SAY. THAT'S WHY I WENT AHEAD WITH IT. BECAUSE I SAW THE. I GOT A LITTLE AHEAD OF OURSELVES. WELL, NOW WE'RE BACK. COMMISSIONER MEYER, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I STILL ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS REVISED MOTION AT THE SAME MOTION THAT WE JUST PASSED. ALL RIGHT, NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME. WELL, AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT TIME IT'LL BE. NOW, DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TERRY. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. I DO HAVE A PROBLEM OR A I GUESS IT'S A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION FROM STAFF ON THE THE ACTION OF ITEM EIGHT. UPON FAILING, WHAT HAPPENS TO ITEM EIGHT? DOES IT GO TO COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF WITH NO RECOMMENDATION? OR DOES IT? DOES IT JUST DOES IT END WITH US? SO IT ENDS HERE. UNLESS OF COURSE, THEY REAPPLY OR THERE'S AN APPEAL. OKAY. AND THEY, THEY CAN APPEAL. THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. THIS WOULD BE APPEALED THROUGH COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. SO I THINK I'M ON ASK A COUPLE CLARIFICATIONS. SO THIS DOESN'T GO TO COUNCIL SINCE IT ENDS HERE. IS THAT CORRECT. IT WOULD ONLY GO TO COUNCIL IF THEY MAKE AN APPEAL OR THEY COULD REAPPLY. IT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE YOU. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THE DECIDER OF WHERE THE LAST STOP FOR TYPICALLY FOR A TREE. REQUEST. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAY ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING NOW AT 752. SO MOVE. HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STETSON AND SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALBERT. ALL IN FAVOR
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