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[7. Consideration, discussion, and possible action regarding a Professional Services Agreement between Clearview AI, Inc., and the City of Manor for services provided to the Manor Police Department.]
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OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU. CONSIDERATION. DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON
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THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH CLEARVIEW AI, INC. AND THE CITY OF MAYNARD[00:13:17]
FOR SERVICES PROVIDED BY TWO DEMEANOR. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. MAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. RYAN PHIPPS. I'M THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE BRING TO YOU TODAY A REQUEST TO. FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH CLEARVIEW AI. CLEARVIEW IS A FACIAL RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY UTILIZED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO PROVIDE US. BUILDING BLOCKS ON CASES USING FACIAL RECOGNITION. WE ALSO HAVE INVITED CLEARVIEW AI HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE FOR THEM. I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD IF YOU CAN DEFINE THE BUILDING BLOCKS ON ON. YEAH. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT IF IF THERE'S A HIT ON A FACIAL RECOGNITION THAT THAT SOLVES THE CASE RIGHT THERE, THAT IS NOT THAT IS SIMPLY A TOOL THAT WE USE FOR A LEAD IN A CASE FOR US TO HAVE DETECTIVES REACH OUT TO AND, AND INTERROGATE OR INTERVIEW SUSPECTS OR WITNESSES REGARDING CASES. AND IT DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY TIE A PERSON TO. TO ASSIGN THEM GUILT. RIGHT. DO YOU ALL HAVE A, A PRACTICE POLICY OR IS THERE AN ORDINANCE THAT SUPPORTS AND, AND, AND FRAMES THAT PRACTICE FOR YOU? SO WE WOULD ADOPT BEST PRACTICES POLICIES THROUGH WHAT'S RECOMMENDED THROUGH THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION AND WORK WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR,[00:15:05]
OR EVEN WORK ALONGSIDE COMPANY TO SEE WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING WELL. WHAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PRESENTED TO US TO REVIEW THOSE POLICIES? YES. YOU ASK MY QUESTION. YEAH, YEAH. WHEN WE DEVELOP A POLICY, WE COULD DEFINITELY BRING THAT BEFORE TO Y'ALL AND SHOW Y'ALL WHAT THAT POLICY IS. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND MAYBE LOOKING AT THAT ONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR A FEW OTHERS WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. AND THEN YEAH, AND THEN MAYBE BRINGING THE TOP 2 OR 3 TO COUNCIL. ABSOLUTELY. AND LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE HERE.IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM. THEY CAME IN FROM ARIZONA. OH, Y'ALL WANT IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT COOLER. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TODAY. IT WAS PRETTY WARM OUT.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF OR FOR. YEAH. IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC TRAINING THAT Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO ENTAIL WITH THIS? GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS TYLER MACARTHUR WITH A CLEAR VIEW. I'M ACTUALLY NOT FROM ARIZONA. I'M FROM DALLAS, SO I'M PRETTY LOCAL. SO I'M AN ACCOUNT EXECUTIVE THOUGH. BUT I DO HAVE. I PLEASURE THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS SCOTT GEISER FROM CLEARVIEW AI SENIOR SALES ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVE. BUT AS FAR AS YOUR QUESTION, AS FAR AS TRAINING GOES, YES, WE DO. WHEN A CONTRACT BEFORE A CONTRACT WOULD START, WE HAVE OUR CUSTOMER SUCCESS MANAGERS TO TRAIN EVERYONE THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN USING CLEARVIEW WITH ON HOW TO USE IT BEST PRACTICES, AND ALSO REITERATING THAT EVERYTHING INCLUDED IN CLEARVIEW IS JUST A LEAD. THERE IS NO PROBABLE CAUSE OR ANYTHING WITH ANY OF THE IMAGES IN OUR SYSTEM. WE ALSO. WE'LL TRAIN, WE'LL RETRAIN AT ANY POINT. IF THERE'S NEW PEOPLE HIRED OR SOMEONE ELSE COMES TO THE AGENCY THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE TRAINED UP ON IT AS WELL. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY OTHER LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES THAT USE CLEARVIEW? YES. HERE IN TEXAS, WE HAVE CLOSE TO 100 DEPARTMENTS, THE STATE AGENCIES AS WELL, JUST IN THIS IN THIS AREA, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW AGENCIES THAT USE IT. YES. MY THIS IS FOR FOR STAFF, NOT JUST YOU, CHIEF, BUT JUST ALL STAFF. AS WE JUST CONTINUE TO EXPLORE INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS WITH AI THAT WE START MAYBE LOOKING AT SOME ORDINANCES OR SOME POLICIES IN REGARDS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE THINGS. THOSE OF US WHO'VE, YOU KNOW, SEEN CITIES AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY OR EVEN OVERSEAS, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT CAN BE GATHERED AND BE USED FOR PROJECTION AND FORECASTING. WHEN YOU MOVE TO A MORE DIGITAL SYSTEM, THAT CAN ALSO HELP WITH SOLVING ISSUES AND, AND GETTING PROVIDING RESOURCES AND SAFETY A LOT QUICKER. AND SO WE KNOW THAT THOSE THINGS TAKE PLACE, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE AND MISINFORMATION OUT THERE AND A LOT OF FEARS AND CONCERNS BECAUSE OF THE MISINFORMATION AND INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE. AND SO I THINK BEING ABLE TO HAVE, NOT JUST FOR POLICE BECAUSE THIS IS UP TO NOW, BUT JUST FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ARE GOING, HOW WE SEE TECHNOLOGY AND THAT IT'S NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR THE GOOD POLICE WORK, BUT IT'S, IT'S TO ENHANCE THE THE SKILLS AND THE TRAINING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. BUT THEN FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE SENSE OF. WHAT OUR BELIEFS AND VALUES ARE ABOUT IT. AND I THINK THAT THOSE THAT KIND OF WORK AND THAT KIND OF STATEMENT PUBLICLY ON OUR SITES AND THAT FRAMEWORK, I THINK WILL BE VERY GOOD FOR FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT YOU JUST SCROLL FOR A FEW MINUTES ON, ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR AND CONCERNS ABOUT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE WERE LAUGHING EARLIER ABOUT OUR ROBOT, YOU KNOW, SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S REAL IS THERE'S, WE'RE BEHIND, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF TEXAS IS FAR BEHIND IN ITS USE OF, OF TECHNOLOGY AND AI AND ALL TYPES OF BLENDED LEARNING AND OTHER APPROACHES. AND SO FOR US TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, AND AS A SMALL CITY THAT'S GROWING REALLY FAST AND WE CANNOT JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN START HIRING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, RIGHT? Y'ALL.
Y'ALL KNOW FINANCE AND HR, YOU CAN'T JUST DO IT LIKE THAT. AND SO IT MEANS WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE DIGITAL TOOLS SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE GAPS. SO IF JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE, I THROW THAT OUT THERE THAT WE START WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT, WE'VE, WE'VE
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DONE A LOT OF THINGS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BASIC LEVEL AI. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INCREASING IN THE AMOUNT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE CAN JUST HAVE THAT FRAMEWORK FOR THE CITY. YEAH. AND THEN EVERY DEPARTMENT KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THOSE SAFETY THINGS, BUT ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE, WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN KNOW, BEAT THEM TO THE PUNCH. YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SCARED AND HAVE EMOTION FROM THAT MISINFORMATION ABOUT A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY AND AI IN GENERAL. AND MR. MOORE MADE ALL THE DIRECTORS GO THROUGH AN AI CLASS RECENTLY HELD BY T ML. AND I DO BELIEVE YOU'RE RIGHT THAT WE ARE FALLING BEHIND. GOVERNMENT IS FALLING BEHIND AND UTILIZING THINGS THAT COULD REALLY MAKE JOBS EASIER AND IN THIS CASE, MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER, MAKE OUR DETECTIVES JOBS A LOT EASIER AND UTILIZING TECHNOLOGY, BUT ENSURING ABSOLUTELY THAT IT IS DONE APPROPRIATELY. AND THAT IS DONE WITHIN REASON AND WITHIN THE LAW. AND I THINK THAT AI HAS ESTABLISHED A, A, A FIRM FOUNDATION IN MAYBE A LITTLE BUMPY START, BUT FIRM FOUNDATION NOW IN, IN SUPPORTING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND, AND GETTING US THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO, TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. WELL, THE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. I'M ONE OF THE ONES WHO'S NERVOUS ABOUT ABOUT IT ALL. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD COME TO COUNCIL AND LIKE, SHOW ME HOW IT WOULD WORK OR GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OR SET UP SOMETHING? SO I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS, JUST BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY. BUT FOR AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS WITH WHEN WE ENACTED FLOC AND WE HAD A GENTLEMAN WHO HAD ACTUALLY COME HERE BEFORE Y'ALL SEVERAL TIMES IN OPPOSITION OF FLOC THAT WE ASKED TO JOIN OUR CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY. AND IN THAT CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY, WE WENT INTO DEPTH OF THE FLOCK CAMERA AND HOW IT IS USED AND EVERYTHING. AND HE SAID, WHY DIDN'T YOU ALL TELL US THIS BEFORE? AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A, AN ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, SIT DOWN AND SPEND, YOU KNOW, A FEW HOURS GOING OVER THAT WITH EVERY RESIDENT IN, IN THE CITY. AND, AND SO THERE WAS A CHANGE OF HEART THERE. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SIT DOWN WITH PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OR MAY. BE UNFAMILIAR WITH AI, OR THERE MAY BE EMOTION TIED TO THAT. I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE A BETTER SITUATION WHERE WE JUST MEET ONE ON ONE. THANK YOU MA'AM.OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. WILL THE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS COME BACK TO US OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST GOING TO RENEW? I DON'T REMEMBER HOW THIS CONTRACT IS WRITTEN. IT IS BUDGETED THIS YEAR. AND SO IT WOULD IT'S AUTOMATICALLY PUT INTO OUR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND IT WOULD CARRY ON FOR THREE YEARS. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND. Y'ALL KNOW. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STANDARD CONTRACT ON THE RENEWAL. IT'S 90 DAYS PRIOR. WE JUST NEED WRITTEN NOTICE IF THE CONTRACT IS TO NOT RENEW, IF IF NOT WITHIN THAT 90 DAYS, THEN WE'LL JUST SEND OVER A PRESENT, AN INVOICE BASED OFF THE CONTRACT.
GOTCHA. THANK YOU. DO YOU ALL PROVIDE REPORTS ON USAGE AND COMPARISON OF DATA SO WE CAN LIKE IT'S BEEN USED THIS MUCH IN MAYNOR AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE AVERAGE OR THIS THIS IS HIGH USAGE OR THIS IS UNDER USAGE. THAT WAY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BE GOOD STEWARDS. IF IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE USING A LOT OF, WE MAINTAIN IF IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT UTILIZING A LOT OF, THEN YEAH, WE COULD PROBABLY INCLUDE SOMETHING IN OUR MONTHLY REPORT AND UTILIZATION.
I JUST NOT BEING FAMILIAR WITH UTILIZING THE SYSTEM YET. I WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH DETECTIVE OR SERGEANT EATON TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD RUN EACH MONTH TO PROVIDE Y'ALL SOME SORT OF NUMBER OF USAGE THERE IS, RIGHT? YEAH. I SAW THEM SHAKING THEIR HEADS. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. AND OUR ADMIN SETTINGS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE ALL SEARCHES.
NOTHING CAN BE DELETED IN THE SYSTEM. SO IT'S ALL AUDITABLE. AND THEN THE ADMINS OF THE SYSTEM WILL HAVE FULL ACCESS TO ANY USERS AND ANYTHING THEY SEARCH AND INCLUDING CASE NUMBERS, TYPES OF CRIMES. AND YOU KNOW, THE DATES AND EVERYTHING INVOLVED WITH IT, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, JUST EVERYTHING INCLUDED WITH THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE SYSTEM. AND
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THEY CAN RUN A REPORT ON USAGE MONTHLY, YEARLY. IT'S BASED ON HOWEVER THEY WANT TO SET IT UP.OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS. AGENT EATON WOULD BE ADMINISTRATOR LIKE OVERSEEING THIS. SO THIS, THIS SOFTWARE WOULD ONLY BE USED BY CID. PLEASE COME UP AND SHE CAN EXPLAIN IF THERE WOULD BE ANY USES OUTSIDE OF CID BY PATROL OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THE DEPARTMENT. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL SERGEANT MARY EATON. YES. SO THE PRIMARY USE WOULD BE THROUGH THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION. HOWEVER, I COULD SEE SOME SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE PATROL COULD REQUEST US TO USE IT ON THEIR BEHALF. BUT FOR THE MAIN USE, IT WOULD BE MONITORED PRIMARILY THROUGH THE CID. OKAY. AND YOU ALL WOULD HAVE THAT KIND OF INTERNAL CONTROLS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FOLLOWING KIND OF THE DESIGN OF WHO'S WHO SHOULD HAVE ACCESS AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO THERE'S NOT RANDOM PEOPLE JUST RUNNING FACES THROUGH. YES, SIR. SO AS I'M, I'M PICTURING IT IN MY HEAD, IT WOULD BE THAT I WOULD BE ADMIN ON IT AS WELL AS OUR OPERATIONS. LIEUTENANT LIEUTENANT ALLEN. THAT WAY WE, WE HAVE A TWO FACTOR KIND OF TWO PEOPLE TO MONITOR IT. AND THEN WE WOULD THERE'S THE, THE PEER REVIEW AS WELL. SO WE CAN ALL KIND OF DO CHECKS AND BALANCES ON EACH OTHER AS WELL. OKAY. TRY NOT TO PASS THE BUCK, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET OUR TEAM MORE IN FRONT OF Y'ALL. SO I LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME UP AND, AND APPRECIATE THAT, SHARE THE UNCOMFORTABLENESS OF THE PODIUM WITH ME. YEAH, WE WERE JUST CORRECTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. THE CONTRACT IS A 30 DAY, NOT 90 DAY RENEWAL PERIOD. SO I WILL INTERJECT THERE. IF 90 DAYS DOES SUIT BETTER, THAT IT'S A SIMPLE RED LINE THAT WE CAN ADD TO THE CONTRACT TO, OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS OR A MOTION. I'LL. AND MAYBE. I GUESS WHENEVER Y'ALL MEET TOGETHER, MAYBE SOMETIME IN AUGUST, GIVE US A A PROPOSAL OF WHEN WE MIGHT OR WHEN WE MIGHT HAVE A POLICY TO COME BEFORE US FOR ALL THE AI STUFF, OR IF WE NEED TO WORKSHOP THAT POLICY. JUST WAITING ON YOUR APPROVAL. JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, WE DO HAVE A POLICY ALREADY DRAFTED AND READY FOR CHIEF'S APPROVAL THROUGH OUR OUR NEW SYSTEM THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING. SO IT'S ALREADY GOOD TO JUST BE IN FINAL REVIEW FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT AS WELL. OKAY, AWESOME.
I WAS THINKING I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BIGGER ONE. YES. YEAH. SO I COULD SCHEDULE A PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING AND, AND GO THAT ROUTE IF THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT. YEAH. QUESTIONS ON MOTION. MAYOR COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CLEARVIEW AI INC AND THE CITY OF MAYNARD FOR SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE MAYNARD POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILWOMAN WALLACE. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN METZGER. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION? I GUESS WE SHOULD ADD, ARE YOU ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY? WHO'S ON PUBLIC SAFETY? ARE YOU I GUESS WE SHOULD ASK YOU ABOUT IT. AND WHO AREN'T? EMILY. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION BEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR?
[8. Consideration, discussion, and possible action regarding a Master Subscription Agreement between Desk Officer AI and the City of Manor for services provided to the Manor Police Department.]
OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES, FIVE ZERO. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. DESK OFFICER. AI SERVICE CONSIDERATION. DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A MASTER SUBSCRIPTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN DESK OFFICER AI AND THE CITY OF MAYNARD FOR SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE MAYNARD POLICE DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. AGAIN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE'RE HERE AGAIN WITH ANOTHER AI PRODUCT. MAYOR, AS YOU DISCUSSED, AS WE'RE GROWING, IT IS HARDER TO GET EMPLOYEES AND AND WE'RE LOOKING TO UTILIZE TECHNOLOGY TO TAKE SOME WORKLOAD OFF OF OUR EXISTING EMPLOYEES. SO DESK OFFICER AI IS AN ADVANCED ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM DESIGNED TO SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY OPERATIONS. DESK OFFICER AI FUNCTIONS AS A VIRTUAL DESK OFFICER THAT IS INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM A HUMAN IN CONVERSATION. IT IS TRAINED TO ANSWER NON-EMERGENCY CALLS, TAKE POLICE REPORTS, AND MANAGE LOW PRIORITY OR ADMINISTRATIVE TASKS. IT'S VERY INTUITIVE. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF DOING A WALK THROUGH AND ACTUALLY CALLING THE SYSTEM. IT RECOGNIZES ALL SORTS OF SORTS OF THINGS, AND IT DOES SOUND[00:30:06]
EXACTLY LIKE YOU'RE TALKING TO HUMAN. IF SOMEBODY CALLS INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SAYS, I NEED TO FILE A REPORT BECAUSE MY BOYFRIEND JUST BEAT ME UP, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE BACKGROUND. THE SYSTEM IS INTUITIVE ENOUGH TO KNOW TO TRANSFER THAT CALL TO 911. SO I DO ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM DESK OFFICER AI HERE. THEY ALSO BROUGHT THEIR HUMANOID ROBOT, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, THE FIRST HUMANOID TO EVER ATTEND A MAJOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. SO MAKING A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY HERE. AND SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I OR THEY CAN ARE HERE TO ANSWER THEM. AFTER QUESTIONS. I'LL GET TO THAT LATER. I DO HAVE A FEW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE SOME, I DO. GO AHEAD. HOW DOES IT RESPOND TO, I GUESS, PANICKED CALLERS WHEN THEY'RE NOT REALLY INTELLIGIBLE? YOU CAN'T REALLY MAKE OUT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. SCREAMING, MAYBE DIFFERENT TONES OF VOICE, LIKE HOW DOES IT RESPOND TO THAT? SO IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH IT, IT WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG AND IT WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG GUYS, BUT IT WOULD INTUITIVELY SAY WE, THE AI BOT RECOGNIZES THERE'S AN ISSUE IN THE BACKGROUND AND WOULD TRANSFER THAT CALL TO 911. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF MAYBE SOMETHING GOES WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WHO'S WORKING ON THE BACK END? LIKE HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET THAT FIXED AT THE. WELL, THEY'RE AN AUSTIN BASED COMPANY. I HAVE THEIR CELL PHONE NUMBERS. SO THEY IT WOULD BE A VERY QUICK PHONE CALL, BUT I THINK, AND THEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IS IF I REMEMBER, IF THE SYSTEM GLITCHES OR DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, IT AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFERS THE CALL TO BRING A HUMANS DESK. THAT'S IT.AUTOMATIC FOLLOWING. WHO'S THAT HUMAN? THAT COULD BE ANYONE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO IF YOU CALL INTO OUR MAIN LINE 2728177 MAIN PHONE NUMBER, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT ACTUALLY RINGS MULTIPLE PEOPLE'S DESK PHONE. AND SO WHOEVER IS AVAILABLE AT THAT DESK IS THE FIRST ONE TO PICK UP. SO THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE. SO IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN WITH A SYSTEM, IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY DEFAULT TO THAT THAT PHONE NUMBER. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT WAS THAT WAS MY I GUESS AARON'S IN MY NOTES. YEAH. THAT WAS PART OF MY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE BACKUP SYSTEM LOOK LIKE? I FIGURED IT'D HAVE A PROCESS TO ROLL OVER TO A PERSON, BUT YOU KNOW, WHO'S THAT DESIGNATED PERSON? YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? IF WE'RE ON A SHORT SHIFT AND PEOPLE ARE OUT AND THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE OUT DRIVING AND THERE'S NOT SOMEONE THAT CAN ANSWER JUST KIND OF ONE OF THOSE PROTOCOLS. I AND AGAIN, I'LL ASK THEM TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT FROM WHAT I REMEMBER IS RIGHT NOW, IF SOMEBODY CALLS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT LINE AFTER 5:00, IT GOES TO AN ANSWERING MACHINE. OKAY, SO WITH THIS SYSTEM, IT WOULD ACTUALLY TRY TO HELP THEM THROUGH THE AI BOT EVEN AFTER HOURS. AND IF THEY CAN'T, THEY WOULD TRANSFER TO EITHER 911 OR TO OUR NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER, AM I RIGHT? OKAY, LOOK, Y'ALL Y'ALL Y'ALL PREPPED HIM WELL, ALRIGHT. LET'S SEE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR IS RECORDING THE TRANSCRIPT. DOES IT RECORD LIKE A CALL TO WHERE SOMETHING THERE'S A GLITCH OR SOMEBODY SAID, I CALLED EARLIER, WE CAN GO BACK TO CALL IT. YES. 1130 TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY WAS DISCUSSED, RATHER THAN BEING A TOTAL DISCONNECT FROM THE BOT TO AN ACTUAL HUMAN SO THEY CAN SEE THE TRANSCRIPT. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT ACTUALLY KEEPS A COMPLETE TRANSCRIPT OF EVERY CALL. AND IF THAT CALL RESULTS IN A IN A REPORT, THOSE TRANSCRIPTS CAN ACTUALLY BE PUT INTO THE THE POLICE OFFICER'S REPORT. SO LET'S SAY WE HAD A RESIDENT THAT CALLED IN SPEAKING CHINESE, THE SYSTEM RECOGNIZES WHAT LANGUAGE IS BEING SPOKEN TO THEM, SPEAKS TO THEM IN CHINESE, GIVES US THE FULL TEXT OF THE OF THE CONVERSATION IN ENGLISH. SO WE KNOW WHAT WAS SAID BETWEEN THE BOT AND AND THE CALLER. WHAT'S THE. I'M NOT. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK ONE MORE WHEN HE'S WRONG. JUST STEP UP. YEAH, YEAH. THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT IS THE.
IN BACK TO THE BACKUP PART FOR SERVERS AND AND AND ACCESS IS THAT ON OUR EQUIPMENT. IS THAT ON YOU ALL'S EQUIPMENT. DO YOU HAVE REDUNDANCIES TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S NOT LOST OR HACKED.
YES. PLEASE COME UP. REDUNDANCY. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. HEY, MY NAME IS KUSH. I'M THE CEO OF DESK OFFICER. THERE ARE TWO REDUNDANT SYSTEMS ON TWO DIFFERENT CLOUD PROVIDERS IN DIFFERENT REGIONS OF THE COUNTRY THAT THE SYSTEM HAS A FAILOVER TO. SO OKAY, IT SHOULDN'T THEORETICALLY SHOULD NOT FAIL, BUT IF ONE FAILS, IT'LL GO TO THE OTHER AND THERE
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ARE IN SYNC. YEAH. AND THERE'S NO EQUIPMENT THAT GOES INTO OUR SERVER ROOMS. EXACTLY. OKAY.AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT, AND Y'ALL MAY HAVE A QUESTION THAT IF SOMEBODY CALLS INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LINE AND THEY SAY, I NEED TO PAY MY TICKET, THE SYSTEM KNOWS AND THEY WILL FORWARD THAT CALL ONTO OUR COURT DEPARTMENT. IF THEY CALL AND SAY THERE'S A POTHOLE IN THE STREET, WELL, IT WILL FORWARD THAT CALL TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. IT WILL DIRECT CALLS APPROPRIATELY WITHIN THE CITY. I'M ASSUMING IT HAS SOME TYPE OF LEARNING PROCESSOR AS WELL. SO IF IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT STUMPS IT, IT, IT CAN LEARN OR BE PROGRAMED. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN PROGRAM IT TO LEARN FROM THE CONVERSATIONS AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO TRAIN IT. OKAY. YEAH. ADMIN USERS IN THE CONTRACT, IT'S UNLIMITED. SOMETIMES WITH SOFTWARE COMPANIES, THE THE, THE PRICE INCREASES WITH THE NUMBER OF ADMIN ACCOUNTS. IS THAT THE CASE WITH THIS OR IS THAT IS THAT OKAY? YEAH. OKAY.
ALL INCLUSIVE. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WAS UNLIMITED. SO THAT SOMETIMES I MEAN, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE. AND THEN INITIAL CONTRACT STARTS WITH THE, I THINK THE PRORATED DISCOUNTED AMOUNT OF 62,000, 42% DISCOUNT. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THAT 62 GOES UP.
AND SO. I GUESS I'M WONDERING. IF, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT FTES AND THE SOFTWARE, WHERE ARE WE SEEING THE, THE COST SAVINGS AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THAT'S. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS JAMESON JOHNSON. I'M ONE OF THE CO-FOUNDERS OF DESK OFFICER. SO THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT DESK OFFICER IS, YOU KNOW, EACH ONE WE DEPLOY IS ESSENTIALLY A 247 EMPLOYEE, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE WORKING OVERNIGHT. SO TO STAFF SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU'D ACTUALLY NEED THREE PLUS, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES REGULARLY. SO WHEN NEXT YEAR RENEWS, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING FROM JUST THE SINGLE DESK OFFICER TO OTHER USE CASES WHERE IT CAN HELP WITH INVESTIGATIONS, IT CAN HELP WITH OTHER KIND OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TYPE USE CASES. SO AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR, I THINK THE EQUIVALENT FTE IS LIKELY ABOUT SIX FTES FOR THE TWO DESK OFFICERS THAT YOU'LL BE IMPLEMENTING. OKAY. WHAT ARE THE IN CONTRACT TALKS ABOUT ANALYTICS ANALYTICS IN THE DASHBOARD. WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OTHER TECH ENTITY IN REGARDS TO BEING ABLE TO HAVE DIGITAL DATA THAT WE CAN USE IN CRUNCH AND DO REPORTING ON WHAT TYPES OF REPORTS. WILL THE CHIEF AND POLICE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT WILL HELP WITH US KNOWING MORE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY AND AND INCLUSIVE OF THOSE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDED ON AFTER YEAR ONE. SO A LOT AT A HIGH LEVEL. TOTAL NUMBER OF CALLS, TOTAL TALK TIME. WE CAN THEN ESTIMATE TOTAL HUMAN HOURS SAVED THAT YOU CAN REALLOCATE TO OTHER WORK. AND THEN WITHIN THE CALL THERE'S ANALYSIS ON WHAT IT ACTUALLY DOES. SO IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF POLICE REPORTS FILED, NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ANSWERED, NUMBER OF CALLS TRANSFERRED, DIFFERENT LANGUAGES THAT ARE SPOKEN THAT ARE NOW SUPPORTED. THE AI SPEAKS UP TO 70 LANGUAGES FLUENTLY. SO HOPEFULLY EVERY PERSON IN THE CITY OF MAYNOR WILL GET SERVICE THROUGH A SYSTEM LIKE THIS. AND I'M ASSUMING IT DOES CATEGORIES ON CALL, CONTENT SORTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. YEAH. IS THERE A IS THERE A WAY FOR TAGGING CLOSED CASES OR AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF? IS THAT IS THERE A WAY TO CONNECT ALL THAT? SO LIKE THE CALL COMES IN AND GOES TO AN OFFICER, OFFICER DOES WHATEVER THEY DO. IS THERE A WAY TO DOES IT, DOES THE CLOSING THAT GO BACK INTO THE SYSTEM, OR DOES IT IS THAT SOMEWHERE SEPARATE FROM THAT? SO WHEN A POLICE REPORT IS SUBMITTED THROUGH THE SYSTEM, IT WILL EVENTUALLY MAKE ITS WAY INTO THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT USES. AND THEN THAT WILL BE NOTED THAT THAT CASE FILE CAME FROM A DESK OFFICER ORIGIN. BUT WE WON'T HAVE IT DOESN'T HAVE A CLOSE. IT DOESN'T TALK BACK TO WHEREVER WE'RE LOGGING OUR CLOSED CASES. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOU.
SO SOMEONE CALLS THE SYSTEM, TAKES THE CALL AND SAYS, HEY, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, SIGNS THE CASE NUMBER THAT THAT GOES TO SOMEONE TO DEAL WITH IT. THAT PERSON DEALS WITH IT AND CLOSES IT. DOES THAT GO BACK INTO THE SYSTEM OR DOES IT JUST OR IS IT JUST TWO SEPARATE THINGS? IT'S IT'S TWO SEPARATE THINGS. BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS AN AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, A BACK
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END WHERE IF THERE'S CHANGES TO THE CASE, LIKE, LET'S SAY IT'S A POLICE REPORT THAT'S FILED.THAT REPORT GOES INTO OUR MS. SYSTEM. IT'S THEN DISTRIBUTED HOW IT GOES, WHETHER IT'S TO A DETECTIVE OR A SUPERVISOR OR HOWEVER THAT THE THE PATTERN OF THAT CASE GOES. IF THERE'S A CHANGE TO THE CASE FILE, THEN THE SYSTEM DOES CAN NOTIFY THE COMPLAINANT OR VICTIM IN THE SITUATION THAT THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE TO THEIR CASE FILE. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
OKAY. BECAUSE I'M JUST IF WE'RE USING TWO SYSTEMS, THAT'S WHY I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW TO DO.
WILL WE HAVE THEM TALK BACK TO EACH OTHER THROUGH LIKE AN API OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? OR WILL IT JUST BE, YES, THIS PART IS DONE. AND NOW YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THIS OVER HERE. AND THEN LIKE, NOW, NOW I'M GONNA HAVE TO PERSONALLY CALL YOU. I CAN'T DO UPDATES THROUGH THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, HOW ARE WE, HOW ARE WE LINKING OUR TWO SYSTEMS TOGETHER? YEAH, THEY, THEY WILL LINK TOGETHER. OUR CURRENT MS. SYSTEM IS THROUGH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND COMMUNICATED WITH THEM THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO COME ON BOARD. THEY DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD. AND SO THE SYSTEM SHOULD VERY EASILY TALK BACK AND FORTH WITH EACH OTHER. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS THERE ANY OTHER CITIES THAT USE DESK OFFICER AROUND HERE? THEY JUST SIGNED A GOOD ONE. SO LOCALLY ROUND ROCK IS MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN IN NORTH TEXAS, WE JUST RECENTLY WENT LIVE WITH OVER 40 OTHER 911 CENTERS. I THINK MY QUESTION WOULD BE FOR HOW ACCESSIBLE IS THE INFORMATION FOR THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST IS WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO THEM QUITE FREQUENTLY, SO THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE. LIKE YOU SAID, THE REPORTING SYSTEM THAT WE COULD RUN REPORTS ON IF THEY WERE SPECIFIC TO GET INFORMATION FROM THE THE DESK OFFICER SYSTEM, BUT MOST LIKELY WHAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT OUT OF OUT OF OPEN RECORDS WOULD BE THE POLICE REPORT SIDE, WHICH IS IT'S COMMUNICATION TO OUR, OUR MS. SYSTEM, SO THAT THERE WOULD BE ALMOST NO CHANGES TO OUR OUR PROCESS. AND THAT'S IN CASE A, AN ATTORNEY ASKS FOR THE ACTUAL PHONE CALL THAT TOOK PLACE. WE KEEP A VOICE COPY AND A TRANSCRIPT OF THE CALL. SO YOU HAVE THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE. AND THEN THE TRANSCRIPT HAS THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE AND THE TRANSLATED LANGUAGE. SO WITH THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST BE THROUGH THE SYSTEM OR IS IT DOES IT FOLLOW OUR REGULAR REQUEST THEN AND THEN THE ACCESS IS IT WOULD FALL THROUGH US AND WE WOULD HAVE A MECHANISM OF, OF OBTAINING THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. I HAVE A, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO. I PUSHED A BUTTON, A HUMAN OFFICER OR ONE OF THE SERGEANTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO VERIFY ALL THE OUTPUT OUTPUT BEFORE IT GOES ANYWHERE, EVEN IF IT WAS A COURT SUBMISSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SOMEONE'S GOING TO VERIFY. CORRECT. THIS IS NOT GOING TO TAKE EVERY REPORT, RIGHT? THIS IS GOING TO WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY ALLOW AN OFFICER TO TAKE A REPORT OVER THE PHONE ON, OR EVEN IF SOMEBODY WERE TO WALK INTO OUR LOBBY, WHAT WE SEE IS LIKE IF YOU LOSE YOUR PASSPORT, A LOT OF TIMES THEY WILL TO, TO REPLACE THE PASSPORT, THEY WILL REQUIRE YOU TO FILE A POLICE REPORT. AND THEN YOU TAKE THAT POLICE REPORT AND THEN THEY AUTHORIZE THE REPRINTING OF A PASSPORT. AND SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT EVER GOING TO BE INVESTIGATED. IT'S NOT GOING TO GO TO A COURT. IT'S NOT. SO IT'S SMALL LITTLE REPORTS THAT ARE MOSTLY ADMINISTRATIVE THAT WOULD BE FILED THROUGH THAT SYSTEM. AND EVEN IF A REPORT WAS FILED THAT NEEDED FOLLOW UP, IT'S STILL GOING TO GO THOSE PATHS, WHETHER IT'S A VICTIM THAT NEEDS TO BE SPOKEN TO BY VICTIM SERVICES, IF IT'S A CASE THAT NEEDS TO BE ASSIGNED TO A DETECTIVE FOR INVESTIGATING, OR IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ASSIGNED TO A SERGEANT FOR FOLLOW UP. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS COME BACK. SORRY. JUST BECAUSE. JUST WE'RE COVERED. LIKE ON CONCERNS, LIKE IF SOMEONE WERE TO GO TO THE ACLU AND SAY CONCERNS REGARDING DATA PRIVACY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN THEY MIGHT SAY ABOUT BIAS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THINGS THAT HAPPEN. SO HOW ARE WE PROTECTED AGAINST THAT? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT OUR AI CANNOT TAKE ANY ENFORCEMENT ACTION. ALL IT CAN DO IS LISTEN TO THE CONVERSATION, GO BACK AND FORTH, AND THEN A POLICE OFFICER IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE ONE
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THAT'S GOING TO INVESTIGATE IF THE CRIME IS MENTIONED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO BY BY DEFINITION, THE AI WILL NEVER BE MAKING INVESTIGATION DECISIONS THAT WOULD LEAD IN ARREST OR SUBPOENAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST CHECKING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBERS? OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN EITHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR A MOTION. MAYOR COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A MASTER SUBSCRIPTION SUBSCRIPTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN DESK OFFICER AI AND THE CITY OF MAYNARD FOR SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE MAYNARD POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT. YEAH. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN MEXICO. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION BEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED.MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. NICE MEETING YOU ALL. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY EARLIER WAS COULD WE DO A QUICK PHOTO? OF COURSE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. UNTIL THE END OF THE SESSION. OH, YEAH. OKAY. YOU WANT TO COME NOW? YEAH. YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT. YOU AND I ARE ALREADY. PROBABLY. SORRY. ONE MINUTE. I THINK, BY THE WAY. CHARLIE'S BEEN DRINKING. YEAH.
OH MY GOD. YEAH. I JUST GOT THE LEASH ON. I'M TAKING SEVERAL SO YOU CAN SMILE WHENEVER YOU WANT.
ALRIGHTY, I GOT YOU. CAN YOU TAKE WHAT WE WANT YOU TO FOR. OH, YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THAT THAT'S YOUR POINT. YES. HE'S TRYING TO PUSH HIM OVER. OH, YEAH. HE'S STARTING EVEN THOUGH EVEN EVEN THOUGH. YEAH, I TELL HIM I.
ALL RIGHT COUNCIL GOOD TIMES, GOOD TIMES. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER NINE. YEAH.
[9. Consideration, discussion, and possible action on a Second Amendment to the Chapter 380 Grant Agreement to Jiwon Jung, owner of the property located at 101 W. Boyce Street to ]
CONSIDERATION DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT TO IS IT GWANGJONG. DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? NO. HOW I SAY IT BIG BROTHER. YEAH. BIG BROTHER DID YOU WANT. AND OWNER OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 101 WEST BOYD STREET TO PROVIDE AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO ACCOMMODATE FOR UNFORESEEN CONSTRUCTION DELAYS. COUNCIL MEMBER THIS ITEM IN THE NEXT TWO ITEMS CONNECTED. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER IN THREES. THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR LAST MEETING, AND WE WERE ASKED TO TO PUT IT ON THIS WEEK SO THAT OUR GUESTS COULD BE PRESENT. SO GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR THANK YOU. THESE ITEMS WERE ALL THREE ITEMS WERE ON POSTPONEMENT FROM LAST MEETING SO THAT THE DEVELOPER COULD BE HERE TO ADDRESS YOU. AND SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TONIGHT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE 380 AGREEMENT TO GYEONGJONG, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 100 ONE FOURTH STREET. THIS IS FOR AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO ACCOMMODATE THE UNFORESEEN CONSTRUCTION DELAYS. AND WE HAVE HERE MISS KIM AND MR. JUNG.[00:50:06]
THE BROTHER OF ZHUANGZHUANG, TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION DELAYS AND THE UNFORESEEN REASONS FOR. AND TO EXPLAIN TO YOU ALSO THE TIMETABLE. SINCE EVERYBODY PASSES BY THESE THREE CONSTRUCTION SITES AND HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MUCH ACTIVITY GOING ON ON, THEY'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP. THEY'VE GOT A CHART HERE OF OF THE CONSTRUCTION TIMETABLE AND WHAT IS EXPECTED. THEY ASKED FOR A ONE YEAR EXTENSION ON EACH ONE OF THESE, WHICH WOULD BE 101. WELL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT 101 VOICE STREET FIRST. THAT'S EXTENSION FROM THE DECEMBER 31ST, 2020 SEVENTH COMPLETION DATE TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2028. AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT 107 AND 108 AFTER THAT. SO I'LL LET THEM COME UP AND ADDRESS YOU. THANK YOU SIR. HELLO. HI. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR AMENDMENTS TO OUR CHAPTER 380 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR THE MIXED USE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, LOCATED AT 101, 107 AND 108 WEST BERRY STREET. BUT WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT BILL BLOCK REMAINS VERY FULLY COMMITTED TO THE CITY OF MAYNARD. WE ARE FULLY CAPITALIZED, AND WE ALREADY HAVE MADE A MASSIVE INVESTMENTS IN THESE PROPERTIES, AND WE ARE VERY DEDICATED TO DELIVERING THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENTS THAT THIS COMMUNITY EXPECTS. BUT TO PUT THESE PROJECTS ON A VERY REALISTIC TRACK FOR SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION, WE ARE PROPOSING AN EXTENSION OF 101.3 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2028, AND THIS PROJECT REQUIRES A $3.7 MILLION INVESTMENT IN REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS FOR 107 AND 108 WAS STREET. WE REQUEST AN EXTENSION TO DECEMBER 31ST OF 2029 FOR 108 WAS WAS BOY STREET.THIS REQUEST ANOTHER $3.7 MILLION IN REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS, WHILE FOR 107 THIS REQUEST $4.7 MILLION IN REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS. I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE.
WHAT OUR TEAM RAN INTO, WHICH FOR THE. FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS, WHICH DISRUPTED OUR MASTER SCHEDULE. SO FIRST, FOR PREEXISTING CITY INFRASTRUCTURE REMEDIATION DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, THE CITY IDENTIFIED THE EXISTING NORTH CALDWELL STREET, WHICH WAS SEVERELY DETERIORATED, AND BILL BLOCK EXECUTED A UNPLANNED REPLACEMENT OF THAT MANTLE AS DIRECTED. AND DURING THAT PROCESS, WE DISCOVERED A MAPPED ELECTRICAL PVC CONDUITS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OUR APPROVED WASTEWATER LINE ALIGNMENT. SO TO GUARANTEE SAFETY AND AVOID MORE DISASTERS, WE HAD TO HALT FIELD OPERATIONS AND REDESIGN THE CONSTRUCTION METHODOLOGY AND THE MANHOLE TO SAFELY RESUME WORK. AND ALSO IN MID 2025, THERE WERE WATER LEAKS FROM THE CITY'S FIRE HYDRANTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF BOYCE AND LEXINGTON STREET, WHICH SATURATED THE PROJECT SITE AND FORCING US TO SUSPEND SOME EARTHWORK AND PAD EXCAVATION FOR MONTHS. THIRD, WHEN WE INITIALLY INSTALLED THE STORM BOX CULVERTS, THE. THERE WAS A CCTV INSPECTION WHICH PROVED THAT THE INSTALLATION WAS PERFORMED CORRECTLY.
HOWEVER, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT INSTALLATION, THERE WERE SOME UNEXPECTED GROUND MOVEMENT, CAUSING SOME OF THE BOX COVERS TO SHIFT AND THIS WAS COMPLETELY UNFORESEEN. SO UNFORESEEN. SO OUR TEAM IS FULLY COMMITTED TO DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY GOING FORWARD.
AND BASED ON THOSE LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED FROM THESE SURPRISES, WE BUILT A REALISTIC MASTER SCHEDULE MOVING FORWARD. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, THE REASON THE DEADLINE FOR 101 AND VERSUS 107 AND 108, THE REASON WHY THEIR DEADLINES ARE DIFFERENT IS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO SQUISH ALL THREE PROJECTS AT THE SAME TIMELINE, BECAUSE IT WOULD CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC BOTTLENECKS IN THAT DOWNTOWN AREA. SO WHICH IS WHY WE REQUEST A DEADLINE FOR 2000 OF 2028 FOR 101 AND 2029 FOR 104 AND 100, I'M SORRY, 107 AND 108 WEST STREET. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THEY'RE STILL SHOWING THE FOUNDATIONS TO BE NAMES OF SLABS TO BE POURED. GO TO THE MIC, SIR. THANK YOU. SORRY. I THINK THEY'RE STILL SHOWING FOUNDATION GRADE BEAMS AND SLABS TO BE POURED BY A THIRD
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QUARTER OR END OF FIRST QUARTER 2027, END OF 26 AND FIRST QUARTER OF 27. SO THEN THEY'LL GO VERTICAL WITH CONSTRUCTION, FIRST PART OF 27, IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING TO THE FOUNDATION CONSTRUCTION WISE, THAT THE MINOR. I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS BOHAN FROM BILL BLOCK, WORKING FOR THE OWNER. AND THE MINOR ISSUE WAS IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING PERMIT SYSTEM, THE CITY RECENTLY CHANGED THE BUILDING PERMIT SYSTEM FROM MGO TO TO GOV. WELL, THAT WE HAD TO MIGRATE OR THE TRANSFER ALL THE DOCUMENTS TO THE CITY'S NEW SYSTEM AND THEN GET THE ALL THINGS SORTED OUT. AND THEN A COUPLE IT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE STARTED LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT DUE TO THOSE KIND OF MINOR ITEMS THAT TO BE HANDLED, THE BUILDING PERMIT FINALLY ISSUED.AND THEN TOMORROW IS THE WE'RE BREAKING THE GROUND FOR THE FOUNDATION. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.
OTHER QUESTIONS. SO WE'LL BE SEEING PROGRESS OVER HERE. WE BELIEVE THAT ALL THE UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS REGARDING THE HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION ARE COMPLETED. AND GOING FORWARD FOR THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, THINGS SHOULD BE PRETTY PREDICTABLE WITH OR WITHOUT ANY UNFORESEEN UTILITY CONDITIONS OR SOIL CONDITIONS. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A PROBLEM WHEN YOU GO TO A OLDER COMMUNITY, OLDER DOWNTOWN AREA, YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S IN THE GROUND OR HOW THE GROUND IS GOING TO WORK. AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I THINK THEY'VE RUN INTO SOME 5000 PLUS IN ADDITIONAL EXPENSES BECAUSE THE MANHOLES AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE HAD TO INSTALL AS WELL. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS OR A MOTION. DID HAVE A QUESTION MATT. ARE THE LEAKS TAKEN CARE OF? YEAH. HI MAYOR. COUNCIL. YES. THE LEAKS HAVE BEEN FIXED. THERE WAS TWO FIRE HYDRANTS THAT, DUE TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE BEING AGED THE WAY IT IS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE LACK OF EXERCISING AND STUFF. SO YEAH, THEY WERE LEAKING AND OUR CREWS HAD TO ACTUALLY PUT SOME LINE STOPS IN JUST TO GET TO THAT MATTER, TO THE FIRE HYDRANT TO MAKE THE REPAIRS. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE SUPPORT THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM OUR STAFF AND EVERYTHING TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE VALVES PUT IN TO WHERE WE START ISOLATING MORE OF THOSE WATER LINES. AND I APPRECIATE WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL UP FRONT, TALKING TO THEM ABOUT OUR NEEDS FOR THAT AREA. WE WERE ABLE TO TELL THEM UP FRONT THAT THE WASTEWATER WE KNEW WAS BAD. WE KNEW THE WATER LINES NEEDED TO BE UPGRADED, SO IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED IN THAT CORNER RIGHT THERE TO GET ALL THAT REHABILITATION REHABILITATION DONE. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ENTERTAIN QUESTION OR MOTION. MAYOR COUNCIL LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT CITY COUNCIL. SORRY, I WAS KIND OF WEIRD. APPROVE A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER THREE GRANT AGREEMENT TO G. WANG JUNG, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 101 WEST BOYCE STREET, TO PROVIDE AN EXTENSION OF THE TIME TO ACCOMMODATE FOR UNFORESEEN CONSTRUCTION DELAYS. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MORENO. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN METZGER. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION BEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED.
[10. Consideration, discussion, and possible action on an Amendment to the Chapter 380 Grant Agreement to Build Block, Inc., owner of the property located at 104 W. Boyce Street and 108 W Boyce Street to provide an extension of time to accommodate for unforeseen construction delays.]
MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. NUMBER TEN. CONSIDERATION. DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER THREE AGREEMENT TO BUILD BLOCK. OWNER OF PROPERTY LOCATED 104.3 AND 108 BOYD STREET TO PROVIDE AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO ACCOMMODATE UNFORESEEN CONSTRUCTION DELAYS. COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS OR A MOTION. MAYOR. COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER 380 GRANT AGREEMENT TO BUILD BLOCK, INC. OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 104 WEST BOYCE STREET AND 108 WEST BOYCE STREET, TO PROVIDE AN EXTENSION OF THE TIME TO ACCOMMODATE FOR UNFORESEEN CONSTRUCTION DELAYS. MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMEMBER MARINO. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN PASTOR. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION? NO QUESTIONS. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES FIVE[11. Consideration, discussion, and possible action on a Second Amendment to the Chapter 380 Grant Agreement to Jiwon Jung, owner of the property located at 107 W. Boyce Street to provide an extension of time to accommodate for unforeseen construction delays.]
ZERO AND NUMBER LOOKS LIKE 11. CONSIDER DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE THREE. CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT TO JIM JONES, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 107 BOYCE STREET, TO PROVIDE AN EXTENSION TO TIME TO OF TIME TO ACCOMMODATE UNFORESEEN CONSTRUCTION DELAYS. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? MAYOR COUNCIL LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION[01:00:01]
THAT WE APPROVE A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT TO JEONGJONG, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 107 WEST BOYCE STREET, TO PROVIDE AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO ACCOMMODATE FOR UNFORESEEN CONSTRUCTION DELAYS. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN MARINO. IS THERE A SECOND I SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMAN. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION BEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL. DRIVING DOWN OR FLYING DOWN. HERE. ALRIGHT. COUNCIL[12. Consideration, discussion and possible action on an Ordinance approving a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number Two, City of Manor Final Project and Finance Plan.]
MEMBERS. CONSIDERATION. DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE APPROVING A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO. CITY OF MAKING A FINAL PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN.WE'VE HAD TWO WORKSHOPS AS BOARD MEMBERS REGARDING TIERS NUMBER TERRORIST NUMBER TWO.
AND THIS IS THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE FINAL PLAN AND FINANCE PLAN. AND I'M ASSUMING WE NEED TO DO IT WITH WITH ADJUSTMENTS TO THE LANGUAGE OF, OF, WITH THOSE EDITS THAT I DID SEND THEM TO YOU ALL. SO AND MAYOR, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO TRAVIS JAMES AND HE'S SENDING US A REVISION OF THAT DOCUMENT AND SENDING IT TO YOU VIA. OKAY. DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT COME TO MIND AFTER THIS? AFTER THE BOARD MEETING? OKAY, WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN EITHER QUESTIONS OR EMOTION FOR THIS ORDINANCE. MAYOR, COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 818 APPROVING A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO, CITY OF MAYNARD. FINAL PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN WITH EDITS. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILWOMAN WALLACE. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION? BEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR?
[13. Consideration, discussion, and possible action on a First Amendment to the Chapter 380 Agreement, Kimbro Crossing, with IDCAP Manor Texas, LLC. (Part 1 of 2)]
OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, WE'RE NOW WE'RE AT ITEM NUMBER 13.CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE 380 AGREEMENT FOR KIMBREL CROSSING WITH. I'D ECAP MAYNARD, TEXAS, LLC. WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT OUR CITY SECRETARY PASSED OUT TO US. LOOKS LIKE THIS. FOR THIS ITEM AND. YES, SIR. MR. JONES YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM ID CAP MAYNARD, TEXAS, LLC AND IDENTITY CAPITAL. AND THE PRINCIPAL, PAT SA, IS HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS. THEY'RE REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN THE FUNDING FOR THE AMENDMENT, ACTUALLY, FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT, WHICH INCLUDES AN INCREASE IN THE FUNDING WE CAN TALK ABOUT. AND HE WILL GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN AS TO THE REASONS FOR THOSE INCREASES. THEY'VE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS CONSTRUCTION INCREASES, SOME OF THEM CAUSED BY DIFFERENT SOURCES. AND HE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE REASONS FOR YOU. AND I'LL INTRODUCE MR. SAUER. AND ALSO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ACADEMY CORPORATE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU AS WELL. IF IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SAY HI TO THEM, COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS PAT SAUER. I'M WITH IDENTITY CAPITAL. LAST TIME I WAS BEFORE YOU, I THINK I GOT UP TO SPEAK AT 145 IN THE MORNING. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. WE WE STARTED WORKING ON MANER LITERALLY FOUR YEARS AGO, AND WE'VE WORKED ON MULTIPLE SITES HERE AND STARTED GOT THIS PROJECT, THIS PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT BEGINNING OF 2025. WE'VE NOW DESIGNED IT. WE'VE GOT PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL, FINAL PLAT APPROVAL, OUR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PLANS APPROVED. TEX-DOT PLANS ARE JUST ABOUT FINISHED. WE'VE INVESTED ABOUT JUST UNDER $500,000 ON THE DESIGN COST. ATTORNEY'S FEES.
ET CETERA. ET CETERA. PERMITTING FEES. AND WE'RE JUST AT A POINT WHERE I GOT NUMBERS LAST WEEK AND IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. AND SO I, I WAS FIRST REALLY UPSET WITH MY ENGINEER BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY MADE SUCH A BLUNDER ON THE ESTIMATES THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU LAST DECEMBER. BUT THEN I WENT AND DID A DEEP DIVE, AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH WHAT ALL WE'RE DOING, AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP IF I COULD JUST. YOU HAVE THAT SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU, I BELIEVE. SO IF I CAN STAND OVER THERE AND YELL, THAT WOULD. THAT MIGHT HELP. YOU
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WANT TO DO. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY, I WON'T, I WON'T, I'LL TRY NOT TO. OKAY. SO SO THE SITE, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE WITH IT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT USED TO BE THE DRIVING RANGE AND IT'S PRETTY RAW. I MEAN, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF POWER DOWN HERE. THERE'S THERE'S NO WATER, NO SEWER. THAT PUBLIC STREET IS NOT THERE. TEXDOT. I JUST EVERY TIME I'M IN MANER, WHICH IS PRETTY OFTEN I SIT AT THIS LIGHT FOREVER AND PEOPLE TRY TO CUT AROUND AND COME UP FROM OLD KIMBROUGH THROUGH OLD KIMBROUGH, AND THEY EITHER GO NORTH OR THEY TURN LEFT TO GET AROUND ALL THAT TRAFFIC. AND IT'S I WAS I WAS TELLING DAVID CHURCH WITH ACADEMY FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS WHILE I WAS TRYING TO GET HIM TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'D SIGN A LEASE. I SAID, WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING ON THIS, THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC ON 290. AND TODAY IT IS. IT IS SO JAMMED. THEY'RE GOING TO START COMPLAINING ABOUT HAVING TOO MUCH TRAFFIC. BUT JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT ALL WE'RE DOING FOR TEXDOT, WE'RE DOING A RIGHT TURN LANE HERE TO OLD KIMBROUGH. WE'RE PUTTING A SECOND TURN LANE HERE. WE'RE DOING A RIGHT TURN LANE HERE ONTO THE PUBLIC, THE NEW PUBLIC STREET, AND WE'RE DOING A LEFT TURN LANE HERE ON OLD KIMBROUGH.SO THE OFF REALLY, REALLY OFF SITE COSTS ARE SIGNIFICANT WITH TXDOT. ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE BUILDING THIS PUBLIC STREET AND ALL THE UTILITIES ASSOCIATED. WE'RE ALSO BRINGING POWER TO THE SITE THREE PHASE POWER, WHICH EVERY BIG BOX BUILDING NEEDS THREE PHASE POWER. WE CAN'T DO IT WITH SINGLE PHASE. AND THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE BLUE BONNET UP HERE IS PRETTY FAR. SO WE'RE WE'RE PAYING TO BRING POWER HERE FOR THIS WHOLE INTERSECTION JUST TO BUILD THESE TWO. OKAY. I'M NOT ASKING FOR MONEY FOR THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HITTING ME. I GOT HIT IN MANY, MANY DIRECTIONS AND I'M JUST TRYING TO CHIP AWAY TO MAKE THIS PROJECT A SUCCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH ACADEMY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. HOBBY LOBBY, I'VE BEEN BUILDING FOR, FOR 21 YEARS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND, AND I THINK EVEN IF WE DON'T GET THIS DONE, THEY'LL STILL LET ME BUILD FOR THEM. BUT IF WE CAN GET THIS FUNDING, IT GETS US THERE. AND I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND KIND OF WHAT THE BIG, BIG TICKET ITEMS WERE THAT WERE NOT THEY WEREN'T UNDERESTIMATED. THEY JUST PLAIN WERE NOT IN THE BUDGET AT ALL. SO ON THE TEXDOT IMPROVEMENTS, I JUST WALKED YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'RE DOING. WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THAT LEFT TURN, THE DOUBLE LEFT TURN LANE, WE REALIZED THAT THERE'S A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE. AND WE ALSO REALIZED WE HAD TO. WELL, AFTER WE SUBMITTED A TEXDOT, I THOUGHT YOU COULD JUST MOVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT'S SIGNIFICANT, LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE SEQUENCING AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. SO WE HAD TO HIRE ANOTHER ENGINEER BESIDES OUR CIVIL AND TEXDOT NEVER TOLD ME THAT. I JUST FIGURED IT OUT ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THEIR REVIEW PROCESS. AND I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE ON TEXDOT PERMITS. I NEED THOSE TO CLOSE IN ORDER TO CLOSE ON THE LAND. THE THE SCOPE THAT WAS NOT IN THE BUDGET, IT WAS ABOUT $546,000. ADDITIONAL STUFF. AND THE BIG TICKET ITEMS WERE THE CONCRETE BARRICADES. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WORKING ON THIS, I THINK YOU COULD HAVE USED BARRELS, WHICH IS A PRETTY CHEAP WAY TO CONTROL TRAFFIC. TEXDOT IS REQUIRING US, EXCUSE ME, TO PUT CONCRETE BARRICADES FOR THE ENTIRE COURSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THEY SAY THIS IS THE BUSIEST SECTION OF 290 IN ALL OF 290. THIS LITTLE FOUR MILE SECTION. MAYBE THAT'S AN EXAGGERATION, BUT IF IT'S NOT ELEVATED, YOU DON'T THINK SO? OKAY, WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE MAKING US DO FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. THERE'S ALSO A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THERE. THERE'S SOME KIND OF SLOPE FAILURE TO OUR WEST THAT THEY'RE COMING IN AND, AND THEY'RE PUTTING A GUARDRAIL PAST WHERE WE'RE PUTTING WINNING WAY THERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TEAR THAT BACK OUT AND, AND PUT SOME, PUT SOME GUARDRAIL ON, ON OUR ON OUR APRON, ON OUR APPROACH APRON. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WE CAN'T JUST MOVE IT. WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT BECAUSE OF FUTURE PLANS FOR THE CITY TO WIDEN OLD
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KIMBROUGH. WE'RE MOVING IT AWAY. AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO GET A LONGER MAST ARM. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT FINAL. WE'RE WE'RE STILL BIDDING THAT, BUT IT'S AROUND 76,000 ON THE PUBLIC STREETS. THE MAIN ADDITIONAL SCOPE ITEMS. WE'RE WE'RE ABOUT 412,000 OVER THERE.BUT THE MAIN ITEMS ARE THERE WERE NO STREET LIGHTS IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET. PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN. BUT. AND THEN THE LEFT TURN LANE FROM OLD KIMBROUGH ONTO THAT PRIVATE DRIVE WAS NOT IN THERE. AND SO THAT WAS 175 OF THAT 412. THE DETENTION POND, WHICH IS REALLY CATCHING ALL OF THIS, INCLUDING THE PUBLIC STREETS. IT'S ALSO CATCHING TONS OF WATER FROM THE WEST AND KNOWING, I MEAN, UNTIL YOU DO THE ENGINEERING, YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH WATER YOU HAVE TO RETAIN THERE. AND NOW THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT MOSAIC WALL WE'RE PUTTING IN. AND BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN I THINK THE NUMBERS THREE FEET, WE HAVE TO PUT A WROUGHT IRON FENCE AROUND IT. SO THAT WAS A PART OF IT. AND AND THEN THERE IS A DRAINAGE CHANNEL RUNNING SOUTH OF THE MAIN STREET. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL HEAVY, HEAVY RIPRAP LIKE LARGER THAN SIX INCH RIPRAP. AND THAT'S ANOTHER 176,000. SO THE TOTAL COST OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON THE BUDGET AND THIS IS THESE ARE VERY REAL NUMBERS. THIS IS FROM FROM THE LOW CONTRACT BID WAS A MILLION 728 BUT WE'RE WE'RE REQUESTING BECAUSE OVERALL WE JUST NEED A MILLION.
640 TO GET IT DONE. SO OUR TOTAL ASK FOR OFF SITE COSTS, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IS 4.55 MILLION. AND THE 4.55 IS INCLUSIVE OF THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT. AND YES, YES SIR, THE ADDITIONAL IS A MILLION 640 AND. YOU HAVE A COMMENT? OH NO. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME? I'D LIKE DAVID TO SPEAK. OH, COME ON UP. COME ON UP, DAVID. THANK YOU. YEAH.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DAVE CHURCH. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE COVERING TEXAS FOR ACADEMY. WE'VE PROBABLY BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR ABOUT A YEAR WITH PAT. WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT TRYING TO COME TO MAINE AND OPEN A STORE HERE. THIS PARTICULAR SITE, WE ARE FORMALLY APPROVED AT OUR REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE. WE'VE FULLY NEGOTIATED A LEASE, AND WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SIGN IT REALLY PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THIS MEETING. SO AGAIN, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING BUSINESS IN MANER AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT REALLY JUST WANTED TO SHOW UP AND SUPPORT PAT AND LET YOU KNOW HOW COMMITTED WE ARE TO, YOU KNOW, LANDING IN, IN MANER. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. JONES OR FOR, I GUESS, AND AND I DO HAVE IF YOU'D LIKE TO IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND TALK ABOUT IT, I DO HAVE THE THE ORIGINAL AND THE REVISED IMPACT REPORTS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND HOW THEY AFFECT THE, HOW THEY AFFECTED THE OLD AND HOW THEY AFFECT THE NEW INCENTIVES AND HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT AS WELL. OKAY. LET'S SEE, WHERE ARE WE AT? CAN I ADD THAT WE ARE INSIDE OF 45 DAYS FROM READY TO CLOSE AND START CONSTRUCTION? EVERYTHING'S DONE PRETTY MUCH. WE DON'T HAVE OUR PRIVATE PERMITS, BUT WE'RE WE'RE THERE, WE'RE READY TO GO. AND WE'VE GOT TWO LEASES READY TO SIGN. AND I ALSO DID NOT MENTION WHILE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, WE ALSO GOT AN LOI WORKING WITH HOME GOODS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO COMMITTEE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND SPROUTS JUST FINISHED THEIR SALES FORECAST. MAYNARD WAS NOT ON THEIR TARGETED MARKETS, BUT AFTER THEY SAW THE SALES FORECAST, THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO DO A JET TOUR IN A MONTH. SO THIS COULD BE ONE OF THE COOLEST PROJECTS IN MAYNARD. AND IT ENERGIZES THE EAST SIDE AND AND BEATS ELGIN TO THE PUNCH IN TERMS OF ALL OF THESE TENANTS. YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. WHAT WE COULD DO. SO WE'RE NOT GOING BACK AND FORTH IS HOLD ON 12 OR A TABLE OF 12 OR 13 TO AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN COME BACK, DO 14 AND THEN I'M SORRY. 15 AND COME BACK. OKAY. AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'M SORRY. MY BAD. I'M I'M LOOKING AT THE
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WRONG NUMBERS. 13 AND 14. YEAH, 13 AND 14. ARE THEY CONNECTED? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE'S 13.THEN GO 14, 15 AND COME BACK AND DO THAT ONE. MAYOR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE. TABLE ITEM NUMBER 13 UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION. WELL MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN WALLACE. IS THERE A SECOND I SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MASCO. ANY QUESTION TO THE MOTION BEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'LL BE
[14. Consideration, discussion, and possible action on the Old Kimbro Road Safety Improvement Project Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between City of Manor and Travis County.]
RIGHT BACK AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DO THAT ONE. ITEM NUMBER 14 CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON OLD KIMBALL ROAD SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT INTER-LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN STATE AND MAYNARD AND TRAVIS COUNTY. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL. Y'ALL KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK REALLY HARD TO GET SOME CONTACTS AND GET WORKING WITH TRAVIS COUNTY. I THANK GOODNESS A PROJECT MANAGER DID FINALLY FOLLOW UP WITH ME ON ABOUT OLD KIMBROUGH. THEY GOT TO GET INTO A ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TEXDOT, DOING SOME STRIPING ON KIMBROUGH, AND AFTER WE HAD OUR MEETING, WE REALIZED REALLY QUICK THAT, HEY, IT NEEDS TO BE TOTALLY REDONE. NOT JUST SOME STRIPING, NOT NO BAND AIDS. SO WE WE DESPERATELY NEED THE ILA SO WE CAN WORK WITH THEM, OR WE CAN DO A FULL DEPTH REPAIR ALL THE WAY. AND THEN WE ALSO CAN UTILIZE THEIR RESOURCES ON THEIR ENGINEERING AND THEIR CONTRACTOR. AND WE CAN GET IT, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY RECONSTRUCTED AND GET OUR STRIPING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TWO, 290. AND I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT I COULD GET THE OTHER ILA TO Y'ALL, BUT I'M WORKING REALLY HARD WITH VERONICA. I WAS LIKE, MAN, PLEASE LET ME BRING BOTH OF THEM. BUT AT LEAST THIS ONE CAME UP. BUT I AM WORKING ON ILA TO DO THE MAINTENANCE SIDE.SO WHENEVER WE SEE THEM ACTUALLY DOING WORK ON ANY OTHER ROADS, WE CAN HOP ON WITH THEM AND GET OUR PORTION DONE. DOES THIS POTENTIAL WORK? YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO GO FROM OLD HIGHWAY 20. IS IT GOING TO MAKE IT TO 290 OR OH, OR IS IT GOING TO IT'S IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE AT THAT BEGINNING. SO WE WON'T GET ALL THE WAY TO TONIGHT. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TRAVIS COUNTY IS ACTUALLY DOING WHERE THE CURVE IS ON 20. AND THEY'RE GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CITY'S PORTION. IT'S. I THINK I HAVE ABOUT 0.72 MILES FROM 290 TO THEIR PORTION ON 0.9, 8.98. OKAY. YEAH. AND I WOULD SAY SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED ON BLAKE MANOR COMING FROM TAYLOR, RIGHT TO THE VALERO, WE HAVE THAT ABOUT 1500 LINEAR FEET THAT IF WE HAD AN AGREEMENT LIKE THIS IN PLACE THAT ALLOWED US TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT CORRECTION. SO I THINK KEEPING US FROM MISSING THE OPPORTUNITY. YES, SIR. YEAH. I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THAT.
SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING IN THAT WORK AND, YOU KNOW, PRESENTING THIS TO US. SO APPRECIATE IT. I STARTED LOOKING AT MY NOTES. WE DID ACTUALLY START THIS JULY OF LAST YEAR. SO IT'S LIKE, AND I WAS TRYING TO GET IT GOING BEFORE THAT. WHAT'S THE GRADE GOING TO LOOK LIKE? IS THIS GOING TO STILL BE THE SAME? PRETTY MUCH. HILL THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO RE-ENGINEER ALL OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THE SLOPES ARE RIGHT. THE DRAINAGE IS RIGHT, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THE ILA HAS GOT AGREEMENTS ABOUT EASEMENTS. IF THEY HAVE TO TAKE UP AND THEY'LL ACTUALLY DO WORK FOR US IF WE NEED EASEMENTS FOR OUR SLOPES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS WELL, WITH CONSIDERATION OF WHAT'S BEING DEVELOPED WEST OF OLD KIMBROUGH AND, AND THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS AND STUFF THAT'S COMING IN THERE, THEY ARE DOING A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S PART OF THEIR THEIR SCOPE OF ENGINEERING. NOW, I DO BELIEVE IT'S STILL KIND OF GOING TO BE THE TWO LANE ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE THERE IS SOME PLANS LATER ON IN THE ROAD TO DO SOME EXPANSION AND STUFF, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE ROAD TO WHERE IT'S IS REALLY FUNCTIONAL AND IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE. OKAY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE. OKAY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT TOO, IS TO TRY TO ACQUIRE SOME OF THE EASEMENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF OLD KIMBROUGH. AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CIRCLE BACK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SAY IF THEY ARE INTERESTED, WORK WITH US. SO THESE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS WILL ALLOW THEM TO SEE THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO KNOWING THERE'S GOING TO BE A FUTURE PROJECT, BUT HAVE THAT TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK IN 5 OR 6 YEARS OR TEN YEARS AND HAVE TO ACQUIRE TO SEE IF THEY CAN DONATE IT, AND THEN WE CAN WORK WITH THEM MOVING UTILITIES OR PUTTING POWER UNDERGROUND, IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PART OF OLD KIMBROUGH. YEAH, THAT, THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT IN MY LINE OF QUESTION WAS, WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S COMING THERE. AND SO EVEN IF WE IF WE REBUILD TO TWO LANES, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO LAST, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 YEARS BEFORE THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS COME IN. AND SOMEONE TOLD ME THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF ABOUT TO HAPPEN AT 290 IN OLD KIMBROUGH. SO. SO THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST GOING TO INCREASE ALL THAT TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN THERE. AND SO I'M MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROAD USAGE AND HOW DO WE BUILD
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SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT EDGE FALLING OFF, YOU KNOW, AFTER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE GOT 18, WE GOT THE TRUCKS, 18 WHEELERS, AND WE HAD THE DUMP TRUCKS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY GOING THROUGH THERE AND. YEAH, THAT'S A LOT SCHOOL BUS, SCHOOL BUSSES. YEAH. AND IT WILL BE HEAVILY INVOLVED THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. WE RIGHT THERE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO INSPECT OUR SITE AND ALSO CONSULT WITH OUR ENGINEERS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING. ARE WE EXPLORING SIDEWALKS AND WALKABLE PATH DOWN THERE? OR JUST AT THIS TIME, TRAVIS COUNTY IS JUST TRYING TO GET THE ROAD REBUILT AND THE STRIPING DONE, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING THAT SUBJECT MATTER UP WITHOUT SIDEWALKS THERE. THE PROJECT MANAGER YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.YEAH. WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SAFETY GRANTS OUT THERE FOR WALKING AND, AND SAFE PATHS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN EXPLORE SOME OF THOSE AS WELL.
THAT'S RIGHT. WE DID TALK TO ANOTHER TRAVIS COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF GRANTS OUT THERE FOR SIDEWALKS. YEAH. AND THEY JUST THEY JUST DID A BIG BOND FOR SAFE PATHWAYS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO, AND I THINK THEY WERE, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THEM 200 MILLION POTENTIALLY. SO. THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO MAYBE. YES, SIR. SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. YES SIR. ESPECIALLY AGAIN WITH ALL THAT STUFF THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE. YOU KNOW, THEN PEOPLE CAN JUST WALK. YEAH. YES MA'AM. I KNOW I'VE BEEN TRYING REALLY HARD AND I APPRECIATE BECAUSE I WAS EMAILING THE THEIR LEGAL TEAM, THEY WOULDN'T REALLY RESPOND TO ME. BUT WHEN VERONICA EMAILED BANG, THEY LISTENED. I WAS LIKE, OH. YEAH. COUNCIL, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. VERONICA RIVERA, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION AS WELL. ON THE LEGAL SIDE THAT RIGHT NOW, THE CITY MOVES A WHOLE LOT FASTER THAN THE COUNTY DOES. BUT THERE IS AN URGENCY ON THE COUNTY SIDE SO THAT WE WOULDN'T MISS THE TIMING OF MAKING THIS PAYMENT AND PARTICIPATING. AND SO AFTER YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM, IT WILL THEN GO TO COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR THEIR APPROVAL. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE COORDINATING. AND YES, I'M WORKING WITH TRAVIS COUNTY CITY, TRAVIS COUNTY LEGAL. THERE ARE TWO CONTACTS AND WE HAVE WE'VE NOW ESTABLISHED BIWEEKLY MEETINGS BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT JUST THIS ISLA. LIKE MATT MENTIONED, THERE IS ANOTHER ISLA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO IF MATT PROVIDES ME SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON SIDEWALKS OR ANYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BY ALL MEANS WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH THEIR LEGAL TEAM. THERE WERE QUITE A FEW CHANGES WITH RETIREMENTS AND AND FOLKS LEAVING FROM THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT. BUT NOW THERE ARE DEFINITELY TWO ATTORNEYS THAT I'M WORKING WITH. JULIE JO IS, IS ONE OF THEM. AND I'VE WORKED WITH HER BEFORE.
SO AGAIN, ONCE YOU CONSIDER THIS ITEM, IT WILL GO, IT WILL NEED TO GO TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. AND AGAIN, WE WERE DISCUSSING TIMING WITH COUNTY LEGAL. AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT JULY TO PUT IT ON COMMISSIONERS COURT BECAUSE THERE'S I THINK THERE'S IS LIKE A THREE WEEK LAG. SO I LET HER KNOW WE WERE PUTTING IT ON THIS AGENDA BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY DID NOT WANT TO MISS THAT WINDOW, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE IT STILL NEEDS TO GO TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. SOUNDS GOOD. ALSO SOUNDS LIKE WE PROBABLY SHOULD LOOK AT OTHER IF WE GOT LIKE 1 OR 2 THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER STUFF WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO LATER ON AND, AND JUST START ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS. AND ISLAS NOW, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE HAVE TO DO A HIGHWAY 20 FOR SURE. AND THAT'S WITH THAT ONE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. THE OTHER EYE IS KIND OF LIKE THE MAINTENANCE TOUR. WE CAN START JUMPING ON THOSE DIFFERENT ONES AND WE'VE GOT A DRAFT TO LOOK AT. AND I THINK WE HOPEFULLY WE CAN BUTTON THAT UP SOON AND COME BACK TO YOU ALL FOR THAT. I'LL. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WAS GOING TO SAY IF YOU WANTED TO ATTEND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING WHEN IT'S PRESENTED AND THEN GIVE US A CHANCE TO BE UNIFIED LIKE WE DID, WE DID THE CMRA.
SO IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GO AND SPEAK AT THAT COMMISSIONERS COURT, THEN THAT COULD PROBABLY LEVERAGE OTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THINGS WE NEED IN MANNER. IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK. I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS OR A MOTION. MAYOR, COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A
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MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE OLD KIMBROUGH ROAD SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MAYNER AND TRAVIS COUNTY. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. IS THERE A SECOND I SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN WALLACE. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION BEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED.MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. CITY CHARTER
[15. Consideration, discussion, and possible action on proposed City Charter Amendments.]
AMENDMENTS. CONSIDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON PROPOSED CITY CHARTER AMENDMENTS. ARE YOU COMING UP OR ARE YOU OKAY? COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS IS SUMMARY OF ALL THE WORKSHOPS WE'VE DONE.WITH OUR CITY STAFF AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY. YES, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, YOU RECEIVED A REPORT FROM THE CHARTER COMMISSION FROM LAST FALL INTO JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. ON THAT. TOTALITY OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, THERE WERE 23 ITEMS THAT THEY PROPOSED AFTER YOU REVIEWED AND CONSIDERED WHAT. AND WE HAD THE TWO CONFERENCES ON IT. YOU CAME DOWN TO. CONSIDERATION OF, I BELIEVE IT WAS 3 OR 4 ITEMS OUT OF THE. THE. 23 SO IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW IS. A DETERMINATION THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH HAVING A CHARTER ELECTION, OR IF YOU WANT TO PUSH THE ITEMS THAT YOU HAD RECOMMENDED TO A LATER ELECTION. THE CITY SECRETARY PROVIDED. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I'M TRYING TO BE QUIET BECAUSE I'M USUALLY VERY BOISTEROUS. GOT IT. SO OF THE FOUR PROPOSITIONS YOU HAD PROVIDED, YOU ALSO IN THE MEMO, THE ELECTION COST SUMMARY FOR HAVING A SPECIAL ELECTION AND. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION IN ORDER TO ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT YOU FELT THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE A I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS YOU CAN WORK THIS. YOU CAN EITHER HAVE THE ELECTION, AS SHE LISTED, THAT SHE'S ESTIMATING IT TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 20,000. THE GENERAL ELECTION WOULD BE UNDER 15,000. SO ONE OPTION FOR YOU IS TO APPROVE TO PROCEED WITH THE SPECIAL ELECTION ON THE FEW ITEMS THAT YOU HAD ULTIMATELY DISCUSSED, OR NUMBER TWO WAS TO PROCEED WITH A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR JUST A, B AND L, AND THE. AS FOR THE COMMUNITY COMMITTEES, REMOVE THAT. SO THAT WOULD JUST REDUCE IT DOWN. AND THE OPTION THREE WAS TO NOT APPROVE ANY OF THE AMENDMENTS AT THIS TIME, AND NOT TO PROCEED WITH A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR CHARTER AMENDMENTS IN NOVEMBER OF 2026, BUT MOVING THAT FORWARD TO THE NEXT TIME THAT YOU HAVE A CHARTER REVIEW, ELECTION AND CHARTER REVIEW FOR AN ELECTION AND SEEING ABOUT TAKING THOSE MATTERS UP ONE MORE TIME. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ITEM A, ITEM B, AND ITEM L, CORRECT? ITEM A WAS MAKE SECTION 1.05 PARTICULAR POWERS SECTION CLEAR, WHICH WAS BY DELINEATING THOSE OUT IN A NUMERICAL FASHION, ITEM B WAS
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MODIFYING SECTION 1.07 ANNEXATION AND ANNEXATION TO BRING IT INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE MODIFICATIONS MADE BY STATE LAW AND ALLOWANCES. AS TO THE ANNEXATIONS AND ANNEXATIONS AND PROPOSITION L WAS TO CORRECT THE MISSPELLING OF THE WORD ENSURE. AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE WAS A COUNCIL PROPOSITION THAT YOU DIDN'T, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IT WAS IT'S MERELY A RECOMMENDATION AND YOU WOULD NEED TO VOTE ON. THAT IS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE COMMITTEE REFERENCED IN SECTION 10.11 A FROM COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE COMMITTEE TO THE MAYOR'S COLLABORATIVE COMMITTEE. IS THERE A COST PER ITEM OR IS IT A FLAT RATE JUST FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION? I DON'T KNOW. AGAIN, THE ESTIMATE FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION AND THE GENERAL ELECTION WOULD BE BETWEEN 15 AND 20,000, I BELIEVE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CITY SECRETARY. THE CAUSE IT'S NOT PER ITEM. WE CONTRACT WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY. SO HOW THAT'S BROKEN DOWN DEPENDING ON HOW MANY CITIES ARE CONTRACTED.AND IT'S DIVIDED FROM MY EXPERIENCE. I MEAN, THAT'S THE COST ESTIMATE BETWEEN 15 TO 20.
AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN ADDING IF THERE'S A RUNOFF WITH THAT GENERAL ELECTION. SO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHEN WAS IT WHEN WE JUST HAD THE RUNOFF? I THINK IT WENT OVER 20 FROM WHAT I RECALL. DO YOU REMEMBER? SO THIS IS JUST AN ESTIMATE. MY THE GENERAL ELECTION, WHICH THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, EVERY FOUR YEARS NOW, IT ESTIMATES LESS THAN 15. THE.
1.07. WE TALKED ABOUT MAKING THE LANGUAGE MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE TALKED WITH, WHAT THE LAW CHANGES ARE, WHAT ARE THE IS THERE ANY HARM IF B IS NOT DEALT WITH BECAUSE OF THE STATE STATUTES ALREADY CHANGING? MAYOR. THERE'S NOT HARM. WELL, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE CLARITY BECAUSE A HOME RULE CITY CAN CAN DO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH. BUT THERE IS A STATE LAW. AND SO IT JUST PROVIDES LACK OF CLARITY. AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A FALSE SENSE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IN ONE HAND, YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE A FALSE SENSE TO PEOPLE THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANNEX OR ANNEX. I. SO I, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE HAVING THESE HOME RULE, EVEN A LOT OF HOME RULE CITIES ARE HAVING THESE ELECTIONS IN ORDER TO ADOPT THE PROVISIONS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE HAD BEFORE YOU, TO INDICATE THAT THEY ARE JUST ADOPTING IT PURSUANT TO STATE LAW, STATE LAW WILL CONTROL BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY I MEAN, IT IT IT WILL. BUT YOUR STAFF THEN WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT AND BE PREPARED TO EXPLAIN THAT IF THERE IS CONFUSION. YES, ANY CONFUSION. AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING IT, PUSHING THOSE THROUGH FROM OUR WORKSHOP, I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE OF THAT THIRD OPTION IN REGARDS TO WAITING AND WHAT THAT HARM COULD POTENTIALLY BE, WHETHER IT BE LEGAL OR JUST DRAIN ON STAFF RESOURCES FROM. YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT NOW FOR A LITTLE WHILE. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT CHANGE WAS MADE. 2017. YEAH. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD ANY ISSUES WITH BEING VERY CLEAR WITH A, AN APPLICANT AS TO WHAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO AS A RESULT OF THAT OR NOT, OR WHETHER YOU ARE WITHIN THE CITY OR OUT OF THE CITY. I DON'T I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYTHING. IT'S IT JUST IS A CLEANER WAY OF HAVING IT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A CONSIDERATION OF, DO YOU WANT TO SPEND 15 TO 20 000 TO PROVIDE THAT CLARITY? AND MAYBE THAT IS WHERE IT'S JUXTAPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBERS THOUGHTS.
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1.051.07 L AND THEN TEN POINT SOMETHING. 11. SO I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION. DO YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT ELECTION OR CHARTER ELECTION? WHEN IS OUR NEXT ONE DO. WHEN IS THE WHEN IS IT? YEAH. WE HAVE TO REVIEW. IS IT EVERY TWO YEARS OR FIVE YEARS? CITY COUNCIL MAY REVIEW. WELL THEY'RE DUE TO REVIEW THE CHARTER IN TWO YEARS IN 2028.AND THEN A COMMITTEE HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED IN FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS 2030. AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THERE'S THREE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU. WE EITHER, IF YOU LIKE THE MAYOR, YOU ASKED TO PROCEED WITH THE TWO ELECTIONS, THE SPECIAL ELECTION AND THE GENERAL ELECTION WITH OPTION ONE IS THE THREE. PROPOSITIONS A, B, AND C, AND THEN THE THE MAYOR'S. THE COUNCIL'S PROPOSITION, WHICH IS THE NEW ONE, IS THE NAME OF THE CHANGE OF THE COMMITTEE. AND THEN WE DID, AS YOU RECALL, IN THE WORKSHOP, COUNCIL DID DIRECT STAFF TO PRETTY MUCH GO OVER THE CHARTER AND BRING YOU BACK. YOU KNOW WHAT IT WHAT A HOME RULE NORMALLY WHAT WHAT A CHARTER LOOKS LIKE, I GUESS WHAT'S INCLUDED. SO BARBARA DID PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU ALL AFTER GOING THROUGH IT. AND THEN I CAME ACROSS THAT. TEN ONE, 10.11 COMMUNITY COMMITTEES.
THAT'S YOUR OPTION TOO. IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT CAN BE AN OPTION TO JUST COMPLETELY REMOVE THAT WHOLE SECTION. THAT JUST ALLOWS TO, FOR OTHER COMMITTEES TO BE CREATED. WITHOUT BEING LISTED IN THE CHARTER OR OF COURSE, OPTION THREE. AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHARTER AMENDMENT AND WAIT A COUPLE OF YEARS AND REVIEW AND CONSIDER ANY NEW AMENDMENTS OR THESE WILL MOVE FORWARD. SO THEN IT'S 2028 OR 2030. SO OPTION TWO. OPTION TWO IS A, B, L, AND THEN REMOVING 1110 .11 ALTOGETHER, WHICH THEN MEANS ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE WE WANT TO DO COMMITTEES, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY OF THE CHARTER STUFF BEING A HESITANT OR HAVING TO GO AND ADD STUFF.
WE JUST DO IT EITHER THROUGH ORDINANCE OR HOWEVER CORRECT. REMEMBER, COUNCIL DISCUSSED PRETTY MUCH A COMMITTEE THERE. MOST OF THE COMMITTEES ARE ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE ALREADY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. I WENT THROUGH ALL THE SECTIONS AND THIS ONE KIND OF STOOD OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN CREATING AD HOC COMMITTEES AND AND WE'RE GROWING. SO I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE COMMITTEES. SO IT JUST, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE IT IN THE CHARTER. AND IT JUST ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY TO CREATE NEW ONES. AND WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO, WE HAVE AN ELECTION ANYWAY IN NOVEMBER. WE'RE HAVING WE'RE HAVING AN ELECTION ANYWAY. SO WHAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT IS PAYING ON TOP OF THE ALMOST $15,000 FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION TO INCLUDE A SPECIAL ELECTION, THE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT? YEAH, LIKE WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR. WE'RE PAYING LESS THAN $15,000 TO HAVE A GENERAL ELECTION.
THAT'S JUST YOU'RE GIVEN UP FOR GENERAL ELECTION. YEAH. IF WE'RE HAVING A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR CHARTER AMENDMENTS, AND OF COURSE, IT GOES UP. AND THEN THE COST FOR IF THERE'S A RUNOFF AS WELL, YOU'RE RUNOFFS NORMALLY RUN A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY BETWEEN 15
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TO 20,000. IT ALL DEPENDS BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A RUNOFF, YOU MIGHT HAVE YOU MIGHT BE THE ONLY CITY THAT HAS A RUNOFF. AND YOU, YOU GET TO TAKE THAT WHOLE COST. SO I KNOW THE THE LAST RUNOFF WE HAD, IT WAS JUST TWO OF, I THINK IT WAS CITY OF LEANDER AND MANER. SO OUR COST WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. SO IT ALL DEPENDS. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL. SO. WE ALREADY HAVE AN ELECTION.DO WE WANT TO PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE. KNOCK OUT THE CHARTER STUFF. AND IF IF AND IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN WE PICK OPTION 1 OR 2. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS NOW THEN IT'S OPTION THREE.
AND SO WE CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS. OR YOU CAN IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT, YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND MOTION FOR ONE OF THE OPTIONS AND WE'LL SEE IF IT PASSES. BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR YOU HAVE ONE DISCUSSION, GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE. AND THE RECOMMENDATION LANGUAGE IS WHICHEVER OPTION YOU SELECT. CORRECT. YEAH. YES. YES. SORRY. OPTION ONE, 2 OR 3. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO HAVE DEADLINES. SO COUNCIL WILL BE CALLING THE GENERAL ELECTION IN AUGUST. WE WOULD JUST NEED TO KNOW TONIGHT TO PRETTY MUCH TRAVIS COUNTY WILL BE REACHING OUT TO ME TO SEE IF WE'RE HAVING A SPECIAL ELECTION. WITH THAT GENERAL ELECTION. DEADLINE ON THEIR. BEFORE WE CALL. ALL RIGHT. AUGUST 17TH. YEAH, THE DEADLINE IS AUGUST 7TH, I BELIEVE IT'S AUGUST 17TH. SO I WANT TO SAY I THINK IT'S THE SECOND MEETING. THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST IS WHEN WE WILL BE PRESENTING THE ORDINANCES TO CALL THE ELECTION EITHER BOTH OR JUST ONE. THAT'S FINE. WE WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION. MAYOR, COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE TO PROCEED WITH SPECIAL ELECTION FOR CHARTER AMENDMENTS FOR PROPOSITIONS A, B, L AND THE REMOVAL OF SECTION 10.11 COMMUNITY COMMITTEES, AS DISCUSSED. MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN METZGER. IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MORENO. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION? NO QUESTIONS. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES, FIVE ZERO. SO THAT WAS OPTION TWO, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.
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ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE GOT EXECUTIVE SESSION SECTION SESSION AND THEN WE HAVE ITEM WHEN WE COME BACK OUT. SO COUNCIL WILL NOW RECONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 551 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. WE WILL NOT BE THERE CITY[OPEN SESSION]
COUNCIL WILL NOW RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTER FIVE, FIVE ONE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL RECALL WE WERE. WE TABLED THE ITEM, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO BACK TO THAT ITEM AT THIS POINT IN TIME. I BELIEVE IT'S[13. Consideration, discussion, and possible action on a First Amendment to the Chapter 380 Agreement, Kimbro Crossing, with IDCAP Manor Texas, LLC. (Part 2 of 2)]
ITEM NUMBER 13, CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 380 TO CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT FOR KIMBREL CROSSING AND ID CAP MAYNARD, TEXAS, LLC.COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR OR MOTION FOR THIS ONE? MAYOR.
COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT. KIMBREL CROSSING WITH ID CAP MAYNARD, TEXAS, LLC. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCIL MEMBER RHINO. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOSCO. ANY QUESTIONS TO THE MOTION? NO QUESTIONS. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT
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