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          [CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCE A QUORUM IS PRESENT]
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          QUORUM IS PRESENTED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. MY NAME IS ROBERT BATTLE. I APPRECIATE YOU 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS]
GUYS STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE HERE, BUT YOU CAME AT A REALLY STRANGE TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY. IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT TIMMERMANS. NOT HERE. IT'S BECAUSE I GOT HIM KICKED OFF OF THIS COMMITTEE. I THINK I'VE GOT TWO JUDGES KICKED OFF. THESE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE SECOND JUDGE IS STILL WORKING HERE. MR. DAVIS IS IN MY LAWSUIT. SO IS SCOTT JONES. 
          SO IS THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS. ACTUALLY HE'S NOT, BUT HE'S GETTING ADDED PARTLY BECAUSE OF THIS COMMITTEE THING. OKAY. SO BASICALLY, I THINK YOU GUYS ALL NEED TO DO A LETTER ABOUT ETHICS. WE DON'T HAVE AN ETHICS COMMISSION, BUT YOU'RE IN A WEIRD PLACE. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE'RE DOING IN OUR WHOLE CITY. THE FACT THAT NOBODY'S HERE SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH THE CITY EVEN GIVES A CRAP ABOUT IT. OKAY. ALSO. YOU NEED TO GET YOUR OWN EMAIL ADDRESS SO I CAN SEND YOU AN EMAIL. I'M TOTALLY EMBARRASSED. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE JUST READING STUFF FOR THE FIRST TIME HERE. IS THAT THE WAY THEY TREAT YOU GUYS? THAT'S THE WAY SCOTT DUNLAP TREATS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. HE DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THE CITY DOES NOT WANT TO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE. THIS, TO ME IS A TOWN HALL TYPE THING. FOR 3 OR 4 HOURS. THE ENGINEER'S NOT HERE. THE PUBLIC WORKS GUY IS NOT HERE. THE CITY ATTORNEYS ARE NOT HERE. THE PARLIAMENTARIAN WE DON'T HAVE IS NOT HERE. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY BEING THROWN TO THE WOLVES. SO HERE'S WHAT'S WEIRD ABOUT THIS IS WHO DO YOU GUYS REPRESENT? THE PHANTOM BUILDERS. THE PHANTOM DEVELOPERS. THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS IS WE HAVE THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THE FEES SELF REGULATED. THIS IS THE THE FOX IN CHARGE OF THE HEN HOUSE. BASICALLY WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES AND 50% OF THIS COMMITTEE IS SUPPOSED TO BE BUILDER REPRESENTATIVE TYPES. THAT WHAT THAT IS IS THAT'S GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S CORRUPTION. IT USED TO BE 40%. THIS WAS GOVERNOR ABBOTT IN THE LEGISLATURE LAST YEAR. THEY RAISED IT TO 50. NOW IN A 7.7 PERSON COMMITTEE, HOW DO YOU GET 50%? YOU CAN'T. SO YOU HAVE TO GET FOUR. SO THAT'S BASICALLY IT'S A TESLA AND A SAMSUNG GIVEAWAY THAT GOVERNOR ABBOTT DID WITH THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, PATRICK GOEB. HIS REAL NAME IS GOEB. HE GOES BY PATRICK. SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO ADD THIS TO MY LAWSUIT. THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK TO 40% AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. AND SPEAKING OF THE LAWSUIT, SINCE YOU DON'T REALLY QUITE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, IT'S ME AGAINST ABOUT 120 ATTORNEYS AND 40 DEFENDANTS. ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUTTING IN STUFF. AND THE MAIN GUY WHO'S BEEN RUNNING THIS TOWN FOR LIKE 30 YEARS IS PETE DWYER. I DON'T SEE MICHELLE ANDERSON UP HERE. IS SHE ON THE BOARD? SHE'S BEEN HIS OFFICE ASSISTANT FOR LIKE 20 YEARS. 
          MR. DAVIS, HE'S A TREASURER OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, BOBBY ORR, HE'S ON THE CHAMBER. THE CHAMBER IS. THIS IS A RACKETEERING CITY IN THE FEDERAL SENSE. IN TEXAS, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD. IT'S TEXAS CORRUPTION ORGANIZED CORRUPTION ACT, COA. I'VE HAD TO BECOME A LAWYER. I WENT BANKRUPT FOUR YEARS AGO SO I COULD SAVE THIS TOWN. THEY'RE PUTTING TOWNHOMES ON TOP OF BLACK PEOPLE'S GRAVES AND EVERYONE GOES, WELL, CAN THEY DO THAT? THEY'VE ALREADY PROVED IT. MAYNARD DOWNS IS THE RACETRACK. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED AN ANNEXATION THAT WAS WRONG, AND THEY WANT TO TEAR THAT BEAUTIFUL STADIUM DOWN AND PUT IN WAREHOUSES FOR DOLPHIN INDUSTRIES. WHO HAS SOLD WAREHOUSES TO ICE. DO YOU WANT ICE WAREHOUSE RIGHT DOWN HERE ON HILL LANE. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWING TO HAPPEN. AND I TELL YOU, ONCE THEY'RE SOLD, DO YOU THINK ABBOTT WOULD CARE IF THAT WAS A NICE DOLPHIN INDUSTRY SAYS SOLD? SO TO PROTECT THAT, I NOW OWN THE NAME MAYNARD DOWNS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT MAYNARD DOWNS ON A WAREHOUSE AND PRETEND, OH, LOOK HOW WONDERFUL. OKAY, SO THE ONLY REASON THAT THESE THESE RULES OF FIVE MINUTE MAXIMUM, THAT'S A THING THEY DID TO STOP ME FROM TALKING TEXAS OR EXCUSE ME, AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL TRIED TO DO THAT, TOO. IT GOT THROWN OUT AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. NOW, ON THIS DATE, I'VE SET UP A WHOLE THING TO WHERE I'M CHARGING PEOPLE WHEN THEY SCREW UP, YOU GUYS DON'T GET TO PLAY DUMB. YOU GET TO PLAY DUMB FOR A LITTLE BIT, FOR A MOMENT. BUT YOU KNOW YOU'VE BEEN THROWN TO THE WOLVES. BASICALLY THIS THING HERE, TOTAL BS. IT HAS. 
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OH, PARKS OPEN SPACE. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS PARKS, REALLY. IT'S PARK LAND. AND IN THE PHRASE PARK LAND, THERE ARE SIX LAND USES. AND YOU NEED TO LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PARK LAND AND ONE WORD PARKLAND. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PARKS, BUT YOU'D NEVER KNOW IT FROM THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITIES IN THEM. THEY HADN'T PUT A DANG THING IN THE PARK EVER. THEY PUT ONE ONE BENCH IN ART PARK OVER HERE AND THEY TOOK IT OUT AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. I'M TALKING 150 YEARS NOW, SO IT'S TIME. IS THAT IT? FIVE MINUTES. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
MINUTES FOR JUNE 29TH, 2026. COMMUNITY IMPACT ADVISORY COMMUNITY IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. REGULAR SESSIONS, IF I MAY. IT'S ON YOUR AGENDA, BUT ALSO ON THE SCREEN, THE CONSENT AGENDA. YOU WANT ME TO READ ALL THAT? YES, SIR. OKAY. IT KIND OF GIVES AN EXPLANATION OF HOW THIS SPECIFIC ITEM IS HANDLED. OKAY, I GOT YOU, SO BEAR WITH ME. ALL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE SELF EXPLANATORY BY THE COMMUNITY. 
          ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ACTIVE. WITH ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATION. NO, THERE'S NO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS. SO I START OVER. CONTINUE WHERE I LEFT. NO. YOU SHOULD REWIND SO THAT THE PEOPLE AT HOME CAN HEAR YOU. OH, GOTCHA. I'LL START OVER ALL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE SELF EXPLANATORY BY THE COMMITTEE, BY THE COMMUNITY IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WILL BE ENACTED WITH ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS REQUESTED BY THE CHAIR OR THE COMMITTEE MEMBER, IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED SEPARATE. CONSIDER SEPARATELY. FIRST AGENDA FOR THE TONIGHT. 
          CONSIDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTIONS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR JUNE 29TH, 2026. 
          COMMUNITY IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR SESSIONS. SO AT THIS POINT YOU WOULD BRING UP ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS YOU HAD FROM YOUR REVIEW PRIOR TO THE MEETING OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU NOTICED NOW, OTHERWISE, YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN, APPROVED WITH CORRECTIONS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          OKAY. SO SO EVERYONE APPROVE ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAS TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. YOU CANNOT MAKE THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. SO I ASKED THE MEMBER TO MAKE A MOTION. YOU ASK, IS THERE A MOTION? YES. REQUEST A MOTION FROM ONE OF THE MEMBERS. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR JUNE 29TH, 2026. COMMUNITY IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGULAR SESSION AS WRITTEN. THEN YOU ASK FOR A SECOND. YOU HAVE A MOTION. I ASKED FOR A SECOND. SECOND. 
          OKAY, SO I APPROVED. THEN YOU TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? I APPROVE. ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON TO SECOND AGENDA. USUALLY YOU ANNOUNCE THE VOTE. NO. KEEP GOING. ALL RIGHT. OUR 
          [REGULAR AGENDA]
SECOND AGENDA IS CONSIDER CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO INTRODUCE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS ITEM SO THE BACKUP ON THE POWERPOINT IS A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT'S IN YOUR BACKUPS. IT'S KIND OF THIS IS JUST LIKE AN INTRODUCTION AND SOME OF THE TERMINOLOGY AND KIND OF HOW ROADWAY IMPACT FEES ARE CALCULATED ONCE WE GET TO OUR NEXT MEETING. AND THEN THE ONE AFTER WE REALLY GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT THAN THE WATER SEWER ONE, WHICH WAS 
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WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON TONIGHT. SO I'M JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ROADWAY IMPACT FEES AND KIND OF THE THEORY BEHIND IT AND WHAT WE DO. SO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES ARE BASED ON SERVICE UNITS, WHICH ARE THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED. AND SO EACH LAND USE IS ASSIGNED LIKE A SERVICE UNIT. SO THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY AND THEN NONRESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS THEN BROKEN OUT INTO BASIC, WHICH IS SORT OF LIKE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING, DISTRIBUTION SERVICES, WHICH IS LIKE GOVERNMENT OFFICES, REGULAR OFFICES AND LIKE THAT, AND THEN RETAIL. SO GENERAL RETAIL RESTAURANTS THAT TYPE OF USE. SO IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S MORE PARED DOWN THAN THE, THE USES THAT YOU'LL SEE LATER FOR THE WATER AND SEWER. THEY KIND OF AGGREGATE THEM ALL TOGETHER. 
          BUT FROM THOSE WE GET OUR SERVICE UNITS. AND SO THIS KIND OF GOES THROUGH NONRESIDENTIAL KIND OF FINDING WHAT RETAIL SERVICE AND BASIC ARE THOSE TYPES OF USES. AND IT GETS INTO THERE'S A KIND OF A COMPLICATED ISH CALCULATION THERE TO GET OUR TRANSPORTATION DEMAND FACTOR. AND THAT'S BASED OFF OF THE ITE TRIP GENERATION MANUAL. AND SO THOSE THE IT WILL ASSIGN THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT ARE GENERATED FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNIT, A MULTIFAMILY UNIT, A UNIT OF RETAIL VERSUS INDUSTRIAL. AND THOSE FEED INTO THIS MODEL HERE. AND THEN THAT ENDS UP BEING, WHAT IS THE FACTOR THAT IS MULTIPLIED BY THE SERVICE UNIT. AND SO THERE'S THE OVERALL TRANSPORTATION DEMAND FACTOR. AND THEN WE DO THE TRIP RATE, WHICH IS WHAT COMES FROM IT. THERE'S A PATHWAY RATE WHICH IS JUST ON RETAIL. THE MAXIMUM TRIP LENGTH STATE LAW SERVICE AREAS, WHICH CAN BE UP IN THIS ONE AS WELL. FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, A SERVICE AREA CAN ONLY BE SIX MILES. SO FOR WATER AND SEWER THE WHOLE CITY CAN BE ONE SERVICE AREA. BUT FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT SIX MILE OR LESS SERVICE AREA. AND SO WHEN ROADWAY IMPACT FEES ARE PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED, THE LAST GO AROUND OF THIS COMMITTEE, THE CITY WAS BROKEN INTO THREE SERVICE AREAS. AND SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND DETERMINE IF THAT NEEDS ANY ADJUSTING. YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY HAS DONE ANY ANNEXATIONS, WE CAN ADD THEM INTO THOSE SERVICE AREAS. BUT IT REALLY COMES OUT TO I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO AHEAD OF MYSELF, BUT ONCE YOU PUT DOWN THE CERTAIN ROADWAY IMPACT FEE ROADWAY PROJECTS IN THOSE SERVICE AREAS, THEN YOU KNOW, IF YOU MAX OUT YOUR SERVICE AREA, IT COULD HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS IN IT. AND THEN YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR IMPACT FEE IN THAT SERVICE ERROR COULD BE HIGHER. BUT IF YOU HAVE SMALLER IMPACT OR SMALLER SERVICE AREAS THAT ONLY HAVE 1 OR 2 PROJECTS, IT JUST THEN GETS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED FOR DEVELOPMENT IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE SERVICE AREAS. BUT THESE ARE THE FACTORS YOU WILL WEIGH AS WE GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE STEPS. BUT JUST KNOW THERE'LL BE A SEPARATE SORT OF LAND USE ASSUMPTION MAP FOR ROADWAYS THAT WILL WORK ON NEXT TIME, AND THEN SERVICE AREAS AND SEPARATE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO THEY'RE ALL WORK IN TANDEM WITH THE WATER AND SEWER. 
          AND THEN HERE BEFORE WE MENTIONED THAT, WE PREVIOUSLY LOOKED AT THREE SERVICE AREAS FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, WITH SERVICE AREA ONE HAVING A TRIP LENGTH OF TWO MILES, SERVICE AREA TWO THREE MILES. SERVICE AREA FOUR WAS FOUR MILES. AND AGAIN, THEY CAN'T EXCEED SIX MILES BY STATE LAW. AND THIS IS REALLY SMALL, BUT REALLY THE THE MAXIMUM SERVICE AREA FOR BASIC, WHICH IS THAT SORT OF INDUSTRIAL USE. THAT ONE WAS 12.89. SO THE, THE ACTUAL MAXIMUM TRIP LENGTH IS JUST SIX BECAUSE THAT HAS TO BE SIX MILES. WHATEVER ELSE IS BELOW THAT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS AT 4.04. SO BASICALLY FOR THAT IS THE THE MULTIPLIER. SO WHATEVER ROADWAY IMPACT FEE IS DETERMINED PER SERVICE AREA. SO SAY IT'S, YOU KNOW, $1,000 IN SERVICE AREA ONE. THIS BASICALLY SAYS AND THIS ALL AGAIN GETS REEVALUATED FOR SINGLE FAMILY. IF IT'S IN SERVICE AREA ONE, THEIR ASSESSMENT IS $1,000 PER TRIP, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY 4.04 TRIPS. AND SO THEIR, THEIR IMPACT FEE WOULD BE ABOUT A LITTLE OVER $4,000 PER HOUSE IN THAT SERVICE AREA. AND SO WHEREVER YOU SET THOSE FEES, IT COULD VARY BY SERVICE AREA. AND THEN THAT TRANSPORTATION DEMAND FACTOR VARIES BY USE. AND SO AGAIN, LAST GO AROUND WAS ABOUT FOR FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 2.19 FOR MULTIFAMILY BASIC WAS 3.9 SERVICE, WHICH WAS AGAIN, THOSE OFFICE USES WAS 4.87 AND RETAIL WAS 4.62. PART OF IT TOO, WE LOOK AT THE EXISTING VEHICLE 
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MILES BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T CALCULATE EXISTING TRAFFIC ON THERE, IMPACT FEES COVER FUTURE DEMAND AND FUTURE GROWTH. AND SO WE HAVE TO SEPARATE OUT EXISTING TRAFFIC FROM TRAFFIC CAUSED BY NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND SO AS I GET INTO IT, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT MATH THAT WE'LL DO TO KIND OF GET TO THAT NUMBER OF THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS CAUSING THIS AMOUNT OF DEMAND, WHICH CAN BE ASSESSED THIS AMOUNT OF RATE. BUT WE GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE EXISTING MILES ARE AND KIND OF CALCULATE IT RESIDENTIALS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS AND THE OTHER USES BASIC SERVICE. 
          AND RETAIL IS BASED OFF THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET. SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE 100,000 SQUARE FOOT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE 1000 VEHICLE MILES, RIGHT? THAT MATH, MATH. AND THEN PART OF IT IS THOSE POPULATION PROJECTIONS AND GROWTH WITHIN THOSE SERVICE AREAS. SO WE FIGURE OUT FUTURE VEHICLE MILES BASED IN THAT TEN YEAR GROWTH PERIOD. SO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, THEY'RE ON THE SAME TEN YEAR WINDOW AS WATER AND SEWER. AND SO WE LOOK AT GROWTH OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS FOR THOSE. AND THIS IS THAT SAME TABLE, BUT WITH FUTURE VEHICLE MILES ON IT. AND I KNOW IT'S REALLY SMALL, BUT WE'LL GET INTO IT. AND THEN THE STEPS TO CALCULATE YOU CAN KIND OF RUN THROUGH THIS. YOU CALCULATE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VEHICLE MILES ADDED TO A SERVICE AREA BASED ON THE EXISTING OR PROPOSED CIP PROJECTS. AND THEN YOU WORK IN EXISTING DEMAND. AND THEN CALCULATE THE TOTAL VEHICLE MILES OF EXISTING DEFICIENCIES. SO VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT ACCOMMODATED BY THE EXISTING ROADWAY SYSTEM AND CALCULATE THE NET AMOUNT OF VEHICLE MILES OF CAPACITY ADDED AND YOUR TOTAL COST FOR EACH SERVICE AREA IS CALCULATED. SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU CAN'T JUST WE COULD RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING ALL OF THE PROJECTS IN THERE, BUT THEN IT'S, YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THE, THE COST TO THE END USER, YOU KNOW, TO THE DEVELOPER, TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHOMEVER IS PAYING THIS FEE VERSUS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE IF YOU SET THE RATES TOO HIGH, IT MAY DISINCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT AND YOU MAY NOT ACTUALLY ACHIEVE ANY OF THE REVENUE FROM IT BECAUSE YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT HAS GONE DOWN SO FAR BECAUSE OF THE FEES. SO YOU HAVE TO BALANCE, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE NEEDS, THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO GROW VERSUS NOT TO GROW. AND SO I CAN, I THINK THE LAST GO AROUND SERVICE AREA ONE HAD LIKE $25 MILLION WORTH OF ROADWAY IMPACT FEES OR ROADWAY PROJECTS IN IT THAT COULD BE ASSESSED WITHIN THAT SERVICE AREA. AND SO AGAIN, WE'LL KIND OF REEVALUATE ALL THAT AND LOOK AT THE PROJECTS AND SEE IF ANYTHING'S BEEN CONSTRUCTED ALREADY BY EXISTING DEVELOPMENT OR NOT, AND CALCULATE THE COST OF NET CAPACITY SUPPLIED. CALCULATE THE COST TO MEET EXISTING NEEDS AND USAGE. AND THEN LOOK AT THE NEXT TEN YEARS BASED ON OUR GROWTH PROJECTIONS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT NEXT MEETING. AND SO WE CAN CALCULATE THE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED OVER TEN YEARS. SO AGAIN WATER AND SEWER. WE'LL LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THOSE CAPACITIES FOR THOSE LINES VERSUS ROADWAYS. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT VEHICLE MILES. AND THAT'S SORT OF THE TERMINOLOGY THERE. AND THE PERCENT OF CAPACITY ADDED THAT CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO NEW GROWTH BECAUSE AGAIN, IMPACT FEES CAN ONLY BE PAID FOR FOR NEW GROWTH. WE CAN ONLY USE IT TO ADD CAPACITIES. AND SAME WITH WATER AND SEWER. WE CAN'T USE IT TO MAINTAIN OUR LINES. IT'S JUST FOR ADDING CAPACITY. SO UPGRADING TO LARGER SIZES, NEW LINES TO MEET NEW DEMAND. AND THEN THE COST OF ROADWAY IMPACT FEE THAT CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO NEW GROWTH AND NEW SERVICE AREAS DETERMINED, AND THEN CALCULATE CREDIT FOR PREVIOUS CONTRIBUTIONS. THIS IS USUALLY ON A PER DEVELOPMENT BASIS. SO PROJECTS YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A ROADWAY FROM OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT'S WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT AREA, THEY MAY BE OBLIGATED TO CONSTRUCT THAT ROAD OR PARTIALLY CONSTRUCT THAT ROAD. THE DEVELOPERS ARE ABLE TO CLAIM CREDITS FOR THAT. SO IF IT'S AN ELIGIBLE ROADWAY, IF THEY JUST BUILD IT, THEY CAN RECEIVE THE CREDITS. IF, YOU KNOW, THEY SPENT $3 MILLION BUILDING A ROAD AND THEIR ASSESSED ROADWAY IMPACT FEE WAS 4 MILLION, THEN THEY REALLY HAVE TO PAY $1 MILLION EXTRA. THAT'S ASSESSED TO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN, CALCULATING THE COST OF ROADWAY IMPACT FEE THAT CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO NEW GROWTH OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD AND KIND OF SETS IT AND YOU END UP WITH LIKE YOUR RATE PER SERVICE AREA KIND OF RAN THROUGH ALL THAT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF MATH THAT HAPPENS TO GET TO EACH ONE. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST NECESSARILY LIKE A, HERE'S A BIG NUMBER. THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT TO PAY. LIKE THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT. SO WE CAN VERIFY THAT WHAT WE'RE CHARGING IS FAIR AND APPROPRIATE AND EQUITABLE. THAT'S LIKE THE MAIN 
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HEADLINE FOR IMPACT FEES IS THAT THEY'RE EQUITABLE. AND, YOU KNOW, BASED ON NEW GROWTH, THIS IS OUR EXISTING THOROUGHFARE PLAN FROM OUR 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THIS KIND OF SERVES AS THE BASIS FOR PROJECTS THAT GO INTO THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE. SO WE CAN ALSO ONLY CHARGE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. SO WATER AND SEWER IMPACT FEES, THOSE CAN BE CHARGED WITHIN OUR SERVICE AREA, OUR CCN, WHICH DOES GO INTO OUR ETJ OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. BUT ROADWAY IMPACT FEES CAN ONLY BE ASSESSED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          AND SO THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THIS THAT A ROAD MAY GO FROM, LIKE IN THE CITY TO OUT OF THE CITY TO IN THE CITY. SO THAT CHUNK THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, LIKE WE COULDN'T ASSESS ANY FEE FOR THAT. AND IT'S JUST, IT'S THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY EVENTUALLY ANNEXES IT, WE CAN UPDATE THE PLAN AND, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATE IT THEN. BUT UP UNTIL THEN, YOU KNOW, THE FEE, THE CITY ISN'T COLLECTING ANY. IF THIS FEE IS IMPOSED, THE CITY ISN'T COLLECTING ANY REVENUE FOR THAT PORTION OF THE SEGMENT OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. WE ALSO FACTOR IN FROM THE TIA'S THAT WE'VE HAD DONE FOR DEVELOPMENTS. OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT COME IN, IT MIGHT SAY YOU NEED A RIGHT TURN LANE HERE, A LEFT TURN LANE HERE, YOU KNOW, A CENTER TURN LANE. AND THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF MITIGATIONS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED FROM THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT. BUT NEW DEVELOPMENT IS FOR THEIR TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS. 
          THEY ONLY HAVE TO PAY A PRO RATA SHARE FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO SOMETIMES THEY'LL SAY LIKE, YOU NEED A TRAFFIC SIGNAL HERE, BUT YOUR DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY ADDING 5% TRAFFIC. SO YOU ONLY HAVE TO PAY FOR 5% OF THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL. AND SO IT MIGHT BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S $300,000 FOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL, BUT YOU'RE ONLY PAYING 5% OF THAT. SO YOU ONLY, OH, I CAN'T MATH 150 OR $1500 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO BUILD A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. SO IT'S AN UNBUILT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IDENTIFIED TRAFFIC NEED OR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT NEED. AND SO WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THE TIA'S THAT WE HAVE AND IDENTIFY THE PROJECTS THAT WEREN'T CONSTRUCTED FROM THOSE. AND THOSE CAN ALSO BE ADDED TO THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE AS ELIGIBLE PROJECTS AS THEY ADD THE CAPACITY RELATED TO NEW DEVELOPMENT. IT'S JUST AGAIN, FOR TIA'S AND THE COURSE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT, THEY'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO PAY THEIR PRO RATA SHARE SO THEY CAN, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY $4 MILLION OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FROM THEIR PROJECT. AND THEIR TIA FEE IS ONLY $200,000. SO MOST TIA'S HAVE A LOT OF UNBUILT PROJECTS. AND THIS IS A WAY FOR THE CITY TO CAPTURE THOSE AND START TO, YOU KNOW, WORK TOWARDS CONSTRUCTING THEM. SO CAN WE LOOK AT MORE THAN JUST THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN? THIS WAS FROM THE LAST ITERATION OF IT. SO THIS WILL ALSO BE UPDATED. SO THIS WAS THE SERVICE AREAS. SO WITH THE YELLOW, PINK AND BLUE THOSE ARE THE THREE DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS. THE DIFFERENT LINE COLORS FOR THE ROAD ARE THE WHETHER IT'S THE CITIES, THE COUNTIES OR THE STATES. AND WE CAN ONLY DO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES FOR CITY ROADS AND CITY FACILITIES. SO WE COULDN'T PUT TRAFFIC LIGHTS NECESSARILY ON 290. WE COULD ADD LANES TO 290, THAT TYPE OF THING. WE WOULD JUST LOOK AT OUR CITY STREETS AND IDENTIFY PROJECTS THERE. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF RUN DOWN A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT ROADWAY IMPACT FEES ARE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. IS THIS JUST BASED ON CARS, NOT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, RIGHT. OR IT'S ALL TRAFFIC. ALL TRAFFIC. YEAH. SO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. SO IT WOULD INCLUDE LIKE PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS OR LIKE THAT TYPE. BUT YEAH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE BASIC THE LAND USE THE NONRESIDENTIAL CATEGORIES, THE IT WOULD FACTOR IN, YOU KNOW, ALL TYPES OF TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S THE, OUR BASIS IS THAT IT MANUAL, IT DOESN'T CONSIDER LIKE TYPE OF VEHICLES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOUR CEMENT TRUCKS, YOU GOT YOUR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT GETS INTO THAT LEVEL. BUT YES, THE IT. SO THAT'S OUR ENGINEERING MANUAL BASED ON TRAFFIC THAT WE'LL USE. THANK YOU. SO THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES ARE ONLY APPLICABLE TO THE SERVICE AREAS CORRECT. RIGHT. 
          YEAH. SO AND THEN IF A ROADWAY IS ON THE BOUNDARY OF A SERVICE AREA, IT GETS SPLIT PROPORTIONALLY. SO LAST TIME THERE WERE SOME WOULD BE LIKE 40% IN SERVICE AREA, ONE AND 60% IN SERVICE AREA TWO. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT COST IS THEN SPLIT 40, 60 OR 5050 OR HOWEVER IT BREAKS OUT. BUT YEAH, IT'S ONLY APPLICABLE WITHIN THAT SERVICE AREA. SO ANY PLANNING, ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THAT SERVICE AREA WOULD PAY THAT FEE THAT THAT ASSESSED IMPACT FEE. AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT FEE COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES SUCH AS LIKE HUTTO OR 
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TAYLOR? YEAH. SO WE'LL HAVE A CHART. SO ONCE WE GET INTO THE FEE SIDE OF IT, COMPARING US TO SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES WHO DO ASSESS THEM AND YOU'LL YOU CAN DETERMINE THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE HIGHER OR LOWER, THE SAME. I WANT TO REFERENCE TOO MUCH OF THE LAST COMMITTEE DID. BUT THAT WAS A BIG PART FOR THEM, TOO, WAS CONTINUING TO LOOK AT ADJACENT CITIES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, PRICING OURSELVES OUT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION ON WHAT OTHER SEE ALSO WATER AND SEWER AS WELL TOO. OKAY. IT'S ALSO BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE CITY TOO, RIGHT? RIGHT. YES. YEAH. SO ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, THE MAXIMUM SURFACE AREA IS SIX MILES. AND SO THE, THE CITY ON 290, IF YOU BASICALLY FROM START TO END IS ABOUT SEVEN MILES. SO WE PROBABLY THEORETICALLY COULD BREAK THE CITY INTO TWO SERVICE AREAS, BUT IT GOT BROKEN INTO THREE. SO AS THE CITY GROWS, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS HAVE TO REEVALUATE OUR SERVICE AREAS. WE CAN KIND OF GROW INTO THESE THREE. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WE'LL LOOK AT AGAIN AND Y'ALL CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. IS IT SIX SQUARE MILES OR SIX MILES IN A STRAIGHT LINE? IS THE MAXIMUM STRAIGHT LINE. 
          SO SORT OF LIKE IT'S LONGEST DISTANCE IS SIX. WHAT HAPPENS IF THE ROADS GET WIDENED OR TAKEN DOWN SHRINKING? I DON'T SEE IT BEING HAPPENING. I MEAN, BUT BY THE CITY DOING THAT OR SO IF THE CITY DOES IT, THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE ISSUE DEBT FOR IT, THAT COULD STILL BE INCLUDED IN THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE. WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE BONDS THAT WERE PAID FOR TO BUILD THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE, SINCE WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER BONDS OUT THERE, THAT THOSE PROJECTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BUILT, ARE INCLUDED IN THE EXISTING IMPACT FEES FOR WATER AND SEWER. AND SO THE SAME FOR ROADWAYS. IF THERE'S ANY OUTSTANDING DEBT THAT COULD BE INCLUDED. BUT AS I SAID, IF IT'S THE DEVELOPER BUILDING IT, THEN THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR CREDITS. ARE THESE PROPOSED ARTERIES ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN? ARE THOSE PART OF WHAT THE THE IMPACT FEES ARE GOING TO BE COVERING? YES. FOR THE ONES THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY, YES. YOU COULD DO THE MAIN ARTERIALS AND COLLECTORS. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, WITH THE TIA'S THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, ANY KIND OF TURN LANE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS ON THEM AS WELL. OKAY. AND SO A LOT OF THESE PROPOSED ARE GOING OUT OF THESE SERVICE AREAS. SO THOSE ARE NOT WE'RE NOT WORRYING ABOUT THOSE, RIGHT? YEAH. THE ONES OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, WE COULDN'T INCLUDE. WE'RE ONLY BOUND BY STATE LAW TO ONLY CHARGE, ASSESS THEM WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. SO WE CAN ONLY LOOK AT PROJECTS IN THEIR. 
          ANYONE ELSE HAD ANY QUESTIONS? MOVE ON TO THE THIRD. YES. THIS ITEM DOESN'T REQUIRE ACTION, SO YOU CAN JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY, SO WE CAN JUST MOVE ON. RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANKS. I DON'T RECALL, DID YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? I FEEL LIKE I BLANKED OUT ON THAT. IT'S GOT ASSISTANT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. SCOTT. HI. TYPICALLY, ANYONE WHO APPROACHES THE STAND WILL HAVE TO STATE THEIR NAME FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. THAT WAY FOR THE MINUTES WE HAVE THAT AS WE TRANSCRIBE THEM. SO I'LL MAKE SURE I ASK FOR THEIR NAME AS THEY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THIRD AGENDA FOR TONIGHT IS CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO EVALUATE THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS MAP. THIS ONE WILL BE A LITTLE MORE INTERACTIVE. WE HAVE A MUCH LARGER MAP THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE TABLE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE MICROPHONES WE HAVE IN CASE THERE'S ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AFTER THE EXPLANATION. BUT WE'LL BE HEADING DOWN HERE TO LOOK AT THE MAP. OKAY. 
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COME WITH A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS. YEAH. I'LL STAND AROUND THIS. 
          SO THIS IS THE EXISTING LAND ASSUMPTION MAP FOR OUR CURRENTLY EXISTING IMPACT FEES FOR WATER AND SEWER. AND SO WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT A MIXTURE THAT THE LINEAGES ARE APPROPRIATE. YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE IT IS BASED OFF OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. 
          BUT THIS ONE IS WHICH IS IT'S NOT PICKING UP YOUR VOICE. YES, IT'S. YEAH. SO THESE ARE THE, THE LAND USES FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE ASSUMPTION MAP THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THIS IS AS THE CITY GROWS AND PEOPLE ANNEX IN OR THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THEIR LAND. THIS IS ONE OF THE BASIS THAT THE CITY USES THE TYPE OF LAND USE THAT SHOULD BE. AND SO WE'VE KIND OF MIRRORED THAT TO SOME EXTENT HERE. EXISTING ASSUMPTION MAP. AND SO KIND OF JUST EVALUATING IT. I DO KNOW THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT I HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON CLEANING UP. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF KIND OF MY. 
          SO EACH LAND USE HAS AN ASSOCIATED LEVY PER ACRE TO IT. AND SO SOME OF THEM LIKE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD MAKES SENSE TO NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE BOTH FOR AS A SORT OF COMBINING SOME OF THESE. SO THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE BASICALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF INTENSITY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE CALL THEM SOMETHING DIFFERENT. NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, IF IT'S FOR REAL USE BREAKER, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CALLED MIXED DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEN THIS ISN'T ZONING, THIS DOESN'T SET ANYTHING. IT JUST SETS YOUR INTENSITY FOR UTILITIES. LIKE HOW MUCH DO YOU EXPECT TO SERVE WITH WATER VERSUS RECEIVING EFFLUENT FLOWS? SO THE, THE LAND USES THAT GET ASSUMED HERE ARE NOT THE SAME AS THIS ARE NOT THE SAME ZONING. IT'S JUST WHAT THIS DOES IS, AND THIS WILL BE LOOKED AT LATER, IS THE SIZE OF THE WATER AND SEWER LINES. AND SO IF YOU BASICALLY TAKE THIS AREA AND SAY, OH, WE WANT IT TO BE EMPLOYMENT CENTER, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE TO ACTUALLY DECREASE THE SIZE OF THE WATER LINES BECAUSE IT'S LESS INTENSE. SO IT JUST HAS A LITTLE DOMINO EFFECT. SO THE MORE INTENSITY YOU ASSIGN SOMEWHERE, THE MORE THE CITY'S GOING TO NEED TO SERVE MORE LARGER LINES, YOU KNOW, ACQUIRE MORE WATER SOURCES OR HAVE A LARGER WASTEWATER PLANT. AND THE LEVEL OF INTENSITY THAT WE ASSUME AS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROJECTS THAT COME OUT OF IT. BUT WE I SAID WE TRIED TO MIRROR THESE. SO THAT WAY EVERYTHING IS WORKING IN CONCERT TOGETHER. SO AGAIN, WE. ZONE FROM TWO OR MORE FARMLAND TO. SO IF YOU GET REZONED FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. SO IS THAT I GUESS THE WATER REQUIREMENT WOULD BE MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THE RESIDENT WOULD BE, RIGHT? YEAH. IN EMPLOYMENT IS 1 TO 3 LIVES PER ACRE AND IT IS ABOUT 200 GALLONS PER DAY. SOME PEOPLE USE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT, PROBABLY AROUND LIKE 165. BUT WE WE SAY 200, BUT THAT'S ON A PER HOUSEHOLD BASIS, RIGHT? YEAH. I KNOW THIS IS A LIVING UNION EQUIVALENT. SO ONE HOUSE IS ONE LIFE. SO HOW DOES IT PLAY OUT FOR APARTMENTS SUCH AS. RIGHT HERE? YEAH. THAT'S ALSO PART OF THIS EXERCISE IS LOOKING AT OUR FACTOR CHART. AND SO AN APARTMENT IS HALF AN LEA TOWNHOME IS 0.7. AND THEN LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY AND A DUPLEX, THOSE ARE ONE LU. AND THEN THE NONRESIDENTIAL SIDE IS USUALLY BASED OFF OF THEIR METER SIZE AND A METER DIVIDED BY 812 LIVES, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THAT'S GOING TO BE BASED OFF THEIR THEIR DEMAND. THEY'LL SAY HOW MANY FIXTURES THEY HAVE OR WHAT THE PROCESS IS THEY NEED FOR IT. BUT YEAH, ONE OF YOU IS ONE OF. 
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SEVERAL WHICH IS DEPICTED. YEAH, YOU NEED TO BE UPDATED OR REVISED. YEAH. 
          BEFORE ASSIGNING WATER AND WASTEWATER USAGE TO THEM, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. YEAH. SO IT'S BASICALLY Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE IF, IF THESE USES ARE APPROPRIATE AND WE'LL MARK IT UP AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH A REVISED VERSION NEXT MEETING. OKAY, SO THIS IS JUST A MARKETING EXERCISE, YOU KNOW. ASK YOU TO MARK IT UP, LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, KEEP REVISING AND KEEP DOING THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE WE COULD PROBABLY LIKE CLEAN UP SOME OF THESE LIKE ONES THAT ARE KIND OF THE SAME. SIMILAR USES THAT HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME REQUIREMENTS, JUST BASICALLY COMBINING THEM, RIGHT? YES. YEAH, KIND OF SIMPLIFYING IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEPARATION, UTILITY DEMAND, TEXAS SPLIT IT UP. WELL, IF YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT HAS A COMBINATION OF BOTH TOWNHOUSES AND SINGLE HOMES, YES, WE HAVE. 
          IS THERE A AREA MIXED USE? YEAH, A COUPLE MIXED USE ONES. SO THERE'S LIKE A DOWNTOWN MIXED USE ONE AND A MIXED USE. WHAT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST SUPPOSED TO ENTAIL? NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE THIS GUY. YEAH. SO FROM THE LAST TIME WE USED THE TERMINOLOGY FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MIXED USE AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE ARE THE SAME. IT'S JUST THE SCALE. SO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USES SMALLER MIXED USE. IT'S LIKE LARGER FORMAT RETAIL AND LARGER SHOPPING CENTERS. WHEREAS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE COULD BE MORE LIKE STANDALONE SMALL BUILDINGS WITH LIKE MAYBE LIVE WORK OR SOMETHING. LIKE THESE ARE SHOWN AS MULTIFAMILY, WHICH DOES ASSIGN IT A LOT OF DENSITY. 
          BUT I KNOW FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS IT AS COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. SO IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, SUFFICIENT DEMAND ON COMMERCIAL. THE LAST SECTION. ALSO, THIS IS SHOWN AS MULTIFAMILY WHEN IT'S COMMERCIAL. AND THEN THE CITY IS EXPANDING AND WE HAVE CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT INTERESTS OVER HERE. AND THEN THIS AREA IS GROWING TOO. AND THESE AREN'T INCLUDED RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST. SO IS YOUR INTENTION FOR CLEANING THIS UP KIND OF CHANGING THINGS FROM MULTIFAMILY LIKE THIS, WHICH IS WHAT A DOZEN LOUIS TO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU SAID IT WAS REALLY MEANT FOR. YEAH. SO BUT IS IT LIKE THE INTENTION TO CONSOLIDATE IT DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES LESS? LOUIS JUST TO OPEN THINGS UP FOR Y'ALL? OR IS IT JUST TO, TO BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS CALLING? BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS WHOLE AREA IS ZONED COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S HOW IT'S INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED. AND IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. WITHIN THIS ASSIGNMENT IS MULTIFAMILY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LIFT STATION LIKE OVER HERE. 
          THAT YOU HAVE UPGRADES TO. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR ENGINEER DID INCLUDE IT OR NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT LIFT STATION, IF THIS WAS ALL MULTIFAMILY, THEY HAVE TO GET COMPLETELY REDONE VERSUS JUST SLIGHTLY OVERSIZE. AND THEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT TAKING THIS LIFT STATION OFFLINE BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER ONE LIKE RIGHT THERE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF LIKE SORT OF A DOMINO EFFECT OF WHEN YOU SIGN A LOT OF USE SOMEWHERE, ALL THE ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED TO MEET THAT IN DEMAND. AND SO IF THERE'S NO INTENTION FOR MULTIFAMILY THERE, I SHOULD CALL IT COMMUNITY MIXED USE OR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR OR SOMETHING THAT IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT YOU THINK THE DEVELOPMENT DENSITY SHOULD BE. WHAT ABOUT YOUR TRAILER HOMES WHERE THEY CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF TOWNHOMES, LIKE AN APARTMENT? LIKE THAT'S GREAT QUESTION. AND SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN RUNNING THROUGH BECAUSE ALSO NEEDS TO BE CLEARED ON THIS, THIS ONE HERE, THE CITY, A WASTEWATER LINE IS INSTALLED HERE. AND SO THIS PROPERTY ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR AS A MANUFACTURED HOME 
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PARK. AND WITH IT BEING IN THE CITY CTJ WE COULDN'T REGULATE LAND USE. AND SO BY PROVIDING THEM WASTEWATER, THEY DID AGREE TO CERTAIN CITY REGULATIONS. SO IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET. 
          THEY'RE STILL GOING THROUGH CERTAIN ENTITLEMENTS. BUT AS THAT WAS HAPPENING AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THEIR WASTEWATER AND HOW IT FEEDS, WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS A MANUFACTURED HOME. WHAT IS IT, 0.7 LIKE A TOWNHOME, 0.5 LIKE MULTIFAMILY. AND WE ACTUALLY MENTIONED LIKE, OH, IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT ON THAT CHART. THE LED CONVERSION FACTORS. ARE THERE ANY SPECIFICS ON SIZING MOBILE HOMES? SINGLE WIDE, DOUBLE WIDE. YOU SAY IT'S DIFFERENT FROM A DOUBLE WIDE AND HOW MANY ARE PLANNED IN THE AREA? YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT'S IT'S 600FT■!S IS TE MINIMUM SIZE FOR ONE SINGLE. YEAH. APARTMENT. I MEAN, IT'S SQUARE FEET. IT'S NOT THAT BIG. 
          UNLESS FOR SOME REASON THERE'S NOT DENSITY, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO DO DOUBLE WIDES AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DENSITY IN THE PARK. AND IT'S GOING TO BE TREATED MORE AS A SINGLE FAMILY TYPE THING. BUT USUALLY THERE'S A LOT OF DENSITY. SO IT'D BE MORE LIKE AN APARTMENT SITUATION ALMOST. YEAH. THIS ONE I THINK CAN HAVE UP TO 600, BUT THEY DROPPED CLOSER TO 5 TO 600 TOTAL. THEY'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE SOME OF THAT CAPACITY FOR POTENTIAL SCHOOL. IT WAS LIKE 5 TO 550 PROBABLY. WELL, YEAH, IT SAYS 100 ACRES FOR SCALE. HAS IT BEEN EMPTY FOR A LONG TIME? JUST VACANT LAND. SO IS IT A POSSIBILITY THAT IT'S JUST THE LAND PLAY POTENTIALLY. YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE. WITH THIS ONE IS THERE ALREADY MULTIFAMILY HERE. 
          AND THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT SCALING, BUT IT IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN. SO IF YOU WERE TO ZONE THAT COMMERCIAL, YEAH. WOULD YOU BE THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR? THEY HAVE A PERMIT. 
          YEAH. SO YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY I MEAN, FOR YEARS NOW, THE SURFACE OF THE MOON, WHEN YOU COME INTO YOU JUST ADDING FILL ON EITHER SIDE OF 290. YEAH. 
          THAT'S THEM. LIKE RAISING ALL OF THIS OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. BUT YEAH, THERE'S EXISTING IN PROGRESS MULTIFAMILY THERE. BUT YEAH, WHEN I HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO, BUT LIKE, THIS IS WHERE THE NEW CITY HALL DEVELOPMENT IS GOING. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. AND SO WOULD THAT BE MORE EMPLOYMENT, I GUESS? IS THAT WHAT? YEAH. WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE THE PROPOSED DENSITIES FOR IT. IT'S KIND OF ALSO A PROCESS OF UPDATING THIS MAP TO WHAT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS AND TO USE. SO IT'S JUST REFLECTIVE OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON. SO JUST MAKING SURE WE ANTICIPATE FUTURE GROWTH AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DESIGNATING LAND USES FOR THINGS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW ARE GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE CITY HAS PARTNERED WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THIS. SO IT'S A P3 PROJECT. WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED ON IT ON THE MAP? JUST GENERALLY, YES. AND LIKE THAT. LIKE DEVELOPMENT QUESTIONS HERE. THIS ONE SEEMS TO WANT TO CONNECT TO CITY UTILITIES OR CITY WASTEWATER. FROM A GENERAL PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE UPDATING THIS TO INCLUDE IN PROGRESS PROJECTS, REEVALUATING THE ACTUAL CATEGORIES TO CONSOLIDATE. I GUESS JUST ENSURING THAT WHAT'S CURRENTLY SHOWN IS STILL IN ONE WITH THE REALM OF NOT ADJUSTING. THINGS. MAYNARD HOLMES IS CITY ANNEXED IT, SO WE'LL BE WASTEWATER, NOT WATER SERVICE. THAT'S KIND OF WHY THESE ARE CALLED OUT, TOO, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE CITY IS ONLY PROVIDING ONE SERVICE AND NOT BOTH. BECAUSE WATER THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS. SO THERE'S MANVILLE AND AQUA, AND IF IT'S ALREADY IN THEIR SERVICE AREA, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO ACTUALLY LIKE PETITION THEM TO GET OUT OF THEIR SERVICE AREA BEFORE THEY CAN BE SERVED BY THE CITY. AND SO EVEN IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES IN THE CITY LIMITS, IT DOESN'T MEAN CITY WATER. AND THEN SAME THING HERE, LIKE THE CITY 
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ANNEXED OVER TO THAT. IT WAS ALREADY IN MANVILLE SERVICE AREA. SO MANVILLE SATELLITE PROVIDER, BUT WE'LL BE PART OF THE WASTEWATER. SO NOT EVERYTHING IS SERVED. IS THERE AN AREA WHERE IT USES WELL, LIKE RESIDENTIAL THAT USE WELL WATER, CITY WATER? I MEAN, SOME OF THE OLDER KIND OF BREACHES OF THE CITY. SO LIKE WE HAVE ALL THE WATER HERE, WHICH WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING AS PART OF THE MAP. RIGHT? OR IS THAT EVENTUALLY WILL BE CONSIDERED? YOU COULD I MEAN, YOU CAN HAVE US EVALUATE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING WATER TO OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. BUT IT'S LIKE PEOPLE COULDN'T CONNECT TO IT UNTIL THEY CHANGE THEIR SERVICE PROVIDER. SO LIKE UP HERE, THERE'S, I THINK IT'S AQUA UP HERE. YEAH. THIS PROPERTY IS NOT AWKWARD. YOU KNOW, WE COULD RUN A WATER LINE THERE, BUT THEN NO ONE COULD TAP IT. AND SO THE CITY HISTORICALLY HASN'T GONE TO THOSE WATER PROVIDERS AND EASY TO TRY TO LIKE GET THAT SWITCHED OUT FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THAT. SO THERE'S CHALLENGES THERE IF WE WANT TO EXTEND SERVICE, BUT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY PROVIDE IT YET. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT OVER HERE AT THE MANOR COMMERCIAL PARK, BECAUSE WE'RE SENDING WASTEWATER LINES THROUGH HERE NOW, AND WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO THEIR CONNECTION, THAT THEY ANNEX INTO THE CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THEIR SEPTIC TANKS ANYMORE, BUT THEY ALSO WANT WATER FROM THE CITY. BUT IT'S SERVED BY MANVILLE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LOOKING AT BRINGING WATER OVER THERE. BUT THIS IS A BIG EXPENSE, NOT ON OUR CIP RIGHT NOW. SO IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT CAN BE COVERED BY CIP FUNDS. 
          AND THEN ALSO, THEY ACTUALLY CAN'T CONNECT TO IT UNTIL THEY'RE OUT OF MANVILLE. THE OWNER WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT. AND THAT'S OUR LINE IN ORDER TO TAP INTO THE CITY WATER. YEAH, YEAH. 
          AND THOSE OTHER PROVIDERS USUALLY CHARGE A FEE TO BE RELEASED. SO THERE'S THERE'S JUST CHALLENGES THERE. BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT SEWER EXTENSIONS ON THIS WAY. 
          SO BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON UPGRADES RIGHT NOW TO THE COTTONWOOD PLANT AND THE LARGER ONE. THAT'S GOING TO 600. YEAH, THERE'S THE SECOND OR THIRD EXPANSION AT THE SAME TIME. IS GOING TO. YES. SO IN ORDER TO BE CHANGING THIS, WE'RE GOING TO GET LIKE WHAT ALL DEVELOPMENTS ARE BECOMING OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR. YEAH. AND REALLY THE, THE BIGGEST PROJECT SORT OF ON THE HORIZON FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, I KNOW THIS IS SORT OF OVER IN THIS AREA. THIS AREA IS CURRENTLY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, BUT IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE LAST IP BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A GOOD DEMAND PRESSURE UP THERE BECAUSE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT OR THESE THREE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE ALL COME IN. SO THIS IS OKRA, MONARCH RANCH AND NEW HAVEN, AND THEY HAD TO EXTEND A 15 INCH WATER LINE THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY. SO NOW ONCE NEW HAVEN GETS TO ITS LATER PHASE, THIS WHOLE AREA WILL BE SERVED BY CITY SEWER. 
          SO WE THINK AND WE'VE GOTTEN SOME DEVELOPMENT INTEREST THERE FOR ADDITIONAL SUBDIVISIONS, BUT IT'S ALL OPINION. DO YOU THINK LIKE THE CITY IS GOING TO GROW ANYWHERE? WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER IT TO LIKE ALL DOWN HERE WE OFTEN GET DEVELOPMENT INTEREST. THAT'S AUSTIN'S ETJ RIGHT NOW. BUT THROUGH NEW STATE LAW, THEY CAN JUST SEND A LETTER TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND GET OUT OF IT. BUT IT IS STILL AUSTIN'S SERVICE AREA AS WELL. OR IT IS MANVILLE WATER. AND I THINK I ACTUALLY SWITCHED TO A DIFFERENT SEWER PROVIDER. BUT EITHER WAY, THE CITY HAVING ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT HERE, AT LEAST FOR SEWER, DEFINITELY THESE PARCELS OFTEN WANT TO CONNECT TO THE CITY SYSTEM. AND SO YOU ALL, AS A COMMITTEE CAN KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH INCLUDING THIS. AND THAT ADDS COST BECAUSE IT IS IN OUR JURISDICTION RIGHT NOW. BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, I THINK IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, IT'S LIKELY THAT IT COULD BE. HOW WOULD THAT WORK IF IT'S OUTSIDE OUR CITY LINE? HOW WOULD THAT WORK? WOULD WE PETITION OTHER CITIES TO ALLOW US TO RUN THE WATER LINE OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTIONS? YEAH. YOU MEAN YOU JUST GET EASEMENTS? SO IT'S MAINLY IT'S DOWN TO YOUR CCN, WHICH IS YOUR CERTIFICATE OF NECESSITY? YEAH. WHICH IS WHAT THE PUBLIC 
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UTILITY COMMISSION USES. SO THE CITY HAS A WATER AND WASTEWATER CCN. AND THOSE ARE SEPARATE FROM THE CITY LIMITS BOUNDARIES TO A BOUNDARY. AND SO WE'RE OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE SERVICE WITHIN OUR. BUT LIKE I SAID, PROPERTIES HERE, ESPECIALLY LARGER ONES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO TO THE PUC BECAUSE OVER 25 ACRES AND DO AN EXPEDITED RELEASE. THERE'S A FEE FOR THAT, MOST LIKELY THAT THE SERVICE PROVIDER WOULD CHARGE FOR WATER. WASTEWATER. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A, IT'S AN EXERCISE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GO THROUGH. 
          BUT SOMETIMES IT'S STILL WORTH IT FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO GET SERVICE MAYBE MORE CHEAPLY. LIKE OFTENTIMES LIKE OUR IMPACT FEES ARE LESS THAN MANVILLE, FOR INSTANCE, FOR WATER. AND SO PEOPLE WILL SOMETIMES OPT OUT OF MANVILLE PAY THE FEE BECAUSE THEY KNOW AT THE END, THE END USER WHO VISITS THEM, THEY'LL BE PAYING POTENTIALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS LESS IN WATER IMPACT FEES. SO IT'S JUST A MATH GAME. THEY CAN ALSO GIVE YOU TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES TO MOVE A BUNCH OF INDUSTRIAL OVER THERE AND WHAT HAVE YOU TO WORK ON THAT ROAD, BECAUSE THE ROAD IS ARGUABLY IN. YEAH. IN. YEAH, PROBABLY 20 IS NOT REALLY THE MOST CHALLENGING BECAUSE IT GOES FROM, LET'S SEE, COUNTY TO CITY TO STATE TO COUNTY. SO OF THIS ROAD, ONLY THIS MUCH OF IT IS THE CITY'S REALLY. REALLY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT PRETTY FREQUENTLY ASKING ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE. I KNOW, I KNOW. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING. SO WHAT'S OUR OBLIGATIONS? IF THAT SECTION REQUIRE WATER, IS IT HALF AND HALF WHERE WE HAVE TO RUN TO CERTAIN LENGTH OF WATER REQUIREMENT OUT TO THE AREA? OR IS IT ALL THE OWNERS RESPONSIBILITY TO RUN INTO, YOU KNOW, TO RUN THAT LINE INTO, YOU KNOW, MANOR DEVELOPMENT USUALLY PAYS INITIALLY AT LEAST. WE HAVE ENTERED INTO PLENTY OF AGREEMENTS WHERE WE REIMBURSE IMPACT FEES. SO IF IT'S ON THE CIP. SO ONCE WE GET TO THOSE WATER LINE AND SEWER LINE PROJECTS. DEVELOPERS, THEY CAN SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO GO BUILD THIS 15 INCH LINE. AND THEN AS DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, YOU'LL REIMBURSE ME FOR A PORTION OR ALL OF THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE OVER HERE FOR NEW HAVEN MONARCH AND OKRA. BUT MONARCH BUILT A BUNCH OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND LIFT STATIONS AND ALL THAT. AND MONARCH WAS THE PRIMARY DEVELOPER. BUT THEN D.R. HORTON IS THE HOME BUILDER. SO D.R. HORTON PAYS THE IMPACT FEES, WE KEEP TRACK OF IT. AND THEN QUARTERLY, WE SEND A PORTION OF IT BACK TO THE MONARCH DEVELOPER FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THIS LINE AND THE STATION REINFORCEMENTS AND STUFF. SO IF IT'S ON THE THE CIP, IT'S ELIGIBLE TO BE REIMBURSED. CITY COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THAT. 
          OKAY. AND WE'VE ALSO GOT THIS PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. IT'S PRETTY FAR REMOVED. THIS IS A LONG RANGE PROJECT FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT WE HAVE. AND SO YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT TO THE THE SEWER LINE FOR IT. THAT'S 973 AREA. IS IT. THAT'S 973. SO IT'S BACK THERE. ISN'T THIS PART OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN RIGHT UP HERE BY PALMER? YES. OKAY. RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S THE COUNTY LINE UP AROUND THERE OUT THERE ROUGHLY BEHIND KIND OF SORTA ISH KYLE STREET. YEAH, I, I ACTUALLY ENDED UP LOOKING AT IT. I'M TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER TO BOUNDARY ALL THE WAY TO 21. THIS IS KIND OF IN THIS EVEN FURTHER OUT. THIS IS STILL THERE'S STILL FURTHER OUT. 
          FURTHER OUT. GOTCHA. YOU BROUGHT IT UP THERE. LIKE THERE'S DEVELOPMENT INTEREST OVER THERE AS WELL OVER THERE. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT THAT'S WHAT DEVELOPMENT INTEREST FOR CITY SEWER. OKAY. POTENTIALLY. LET ME STICK WITH AUSTIN. SO. I SHOULD PROBABLY THIS. SORRY, AT LEAST NOT NOW. SOMETIMES THESE THINGS EVOLVE AS WE GO THROUGH. BUT GENERALLY LIKE WHERE THE CITY IS, WE USE THIS AS A BASIS, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO, BUT YOU THINK IT'S 
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REALLY GOOD EMPLOYMENT TYPE USES OR DEMAND. AS APARTMENTS NOW. GENERALLY MAKES SENSE. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE CITY GROWING ANYWHERE ELSE? WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF? WHAT OUT FURTHER. 
          LYING DOWN. I GUESS IT WOULDN'T GO PAST NEAR ELGIN, WOULD IT? NO. SO WE STOP HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE WILLOW CREEK RV PARK. OH, OKAY. THAT'S. IT'S SPLIT HALF BETWEEN US AND HALF OF. IT. YES. SO. OKAY. THIS IS. WALKER. OKAY. GOTCHA. WHAT IS THE EMPLOYMENT LIKE? WHAT IS ITS INDUSTRIAL? INDUSTRIAL PARKS. INDUSTRIAL PARKS. AND WE'RE ABOUT SOUTH. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PROBLEMS ARE COMING DOWN NOW, SECRETARY. THAT'S ALL SERVED BY MANVILLE. 
          CITY OF BOSTON. I WOULD HAVE TO SEE SOME OF THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE COMMERCIAL TO BE ABLE TO STOP THERE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY YEAH. BECAUSE THIS HAS THAT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE. BUT YEAH, I GUESS, WELL, THAT'S MIXED USE AND MORE JUST SINGLE FAMILY COMMERCIAL, NOT SO MUCH INTEGRATED. IS THAT RIGHT? THIS ONE. YEAH. WHERE IS. THIS ONE? RIGHT HERE. YEAH. 
          WHERE ARE WE? HERE. SO THIS IS PRESIDENTIAL MEADOWS. THIS IS SHADOW GLEN. SO THESE ARE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS. SO OKAY. BUT THIS AREA IN BETWEEN IS NOT. YEAH. SO IF YOU THINK IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS THESE MAY DEVELOP. MAYBE WE SHOULD REEVALUATE THE SERVICE. THIS ONE SEEMS INTERESTING. THIS. THAT'S OWNED BY AQUA. SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE WATER TANK THERE. 
          THEY FEED THE SCHOOL WITH. BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE ACTUALLY THIS DEVELOPER HERE IN NEW HAVEN IS MAYBE LOOKING TO EXPAND INTO THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED ALL OF THIS ACREAGE FOR A LITTLE WATER. OKAY. SO IT MAKES FOR GREAT. SO SOME OF THESE AREAS. AND TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD, I GUESS THAT ONE WOULD BE DIFFERENT. BUT LIKE FOR OVER HERE, WITH THAT BEING THE CITY OF AUSTIN, YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TO ANNEX THAT, RIGHT? OKAY. YOU SAY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, FUTURE TIME, TEN YEARS. OKAY. I THINK ANYWHERE FROM TEN TO MORE THAN 273. 
          COMMERCIAL TWO. OH, LOOK OVER HERE. YEAH. SO YEAH. YEAH. SO THESE ONES ARE SHADOW PLANS. 
          THIS IS THE UTILITY DISTRICT. LIKE ALL THIS HERE. OKAY. GOTCHA. AND ALSO TO. WORRY ABOUT. THESE THINGS ARE THIS COMMERCIAL. THIS IS GOOD LUCK. REAL. OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND THERE. YEAH. 
          YES. YEAH. MARK SOME OF THE BRING IT BACK FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION AND MARK UP AGAIN IF WE NEED TO. ALL RIGHT. I'M FILLING IN THE HOLES DEVELOPMENT INTEREST OVER THERE AS WELL. THAT'S THE FORMER SAINT JOSEPH'S CHURCH. SO THERE'S ETERNAL FAITH IN SAINT JOSEPH. IT'S FOR SALE RIGHT NOW. SOME PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT THOUGH. THEY'RE ON SEPTIC. BUT IF THEY WANT TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT THERE, CONNECTING TO THE CITY SEWER. 
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IT'S GOT A HORSE IN FRONT OF IT. IF THEY WANT MORE CHALLENGING TO CONNECT TO. DO WE KNOW WHERE ALL THE SEPTIC AREAS. SOMEWHAT. YES. PRETTY MUCH. YEAH. THE CITY WE DID A BUNCH OF ANNEXATIONS IN 2017 BECAUSE THE STATE CHANGED OUR LAWS ON ANNEXATION. SO WE COULDN'T REALLY INVOLUNTARILY ANNEX ANYMORE. SO WE WE DID A BUNCH BEFORE THE STATE SAID WE COULDN'T DO ANYMORE, BUT WE DID OUR BEST TO SORT OF ANNEX VACANT LAND. LAND. THAT WAS ON 973, 290. BUT IN DOING SO, WE DID GET SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON SEPTIC, BUT THEY GET TO STAY THAT WAY UNTIL SERVICES ARE EXTENDED. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT HOW TO EXTEND SERVICE HERE WITH. THERE WERE SOME PROJECTS ON OUR EXISTING CIP FOR PUTTING WATER STATIONS ENFORCEMENT OVER HERE, BUT I THINK WITH THE AMOUNT OF DEMAND, LIKE GROWTH PRESSURE OVER HERE, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST SEWER CIP ON THIS SIDE OF THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. SO I GUESS ONE THING THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT, THE CITY. YEAH. SO WE OWN THIS PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS WHERE THE CITY'S FUTURE REGIONAL WASTEWATER PLANT IS SUPPOSED TO GO. YOU SEE, IT'S LIKE THE CONFLUENCE OF LIKE EVERY RIVER. SO BASICALLY 100% OF THE CITY IS GOING TO BE LIKE RIGHT HERE DRAINS TO THIS ONE SPOT. AND SO WE HAVE AN INTERIM PLANT HERE FOR COTTONWOOD. THAT IS PERMITTED ON 800,000 GALLONS, BUT THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE GROWTH PRESSURES OVER HERE. BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW TO GET, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE INITIAL PHASE OF THIS PLANT CONSTRUCTED TO MAKE LIKE A WASTEWATER RETRIEVAL PLANT OR. YES. SO ANOTHER SECONDARY WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT'S NOT NEAR THE GHOST TOWN, IS IT? NO. GHOST TOWN IS OKAY. 
          IT'S FURTHER OUT. LET'S SEE. YEAH. BUT SO THE COST OF THAT CAN BE FACTORED INTO THE SEWER IMPACT FEE. BUT IN DOING, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUT THERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE LIKE A WHOLE WASTEWATER LINE. AND THEN THE TRANSMISSION LINE THAT. IF Y'ALL WANT TO LIKE, YOU CAN ALSO PLAN LIKE IF YOU, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, YOU END UP ONCE YOU BUILD A LINE, IT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO CONNECT TO IT. YEAH. AND SO THEN THAT MAY CAUSE SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES TO START DEVELOPING. AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS IS ALL INCLUDED IN THE, THIS ITERATION OF THE CIP, WE MAY ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT SIGNING SOME FUTURE LAND USES GOING UP THIS WAY, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE. SO WHAT, WHAT LIKE WHAT ROLE? HIBS. OKAY. YEAH. SO THE CITY IS ON THAT FOR LIKE 20 YEARS. SO SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THERE. BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S LIKE NECESSARY. YEAH. BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF DEMAND THAT WANTS TO GO INTO THIS COTTONWOOD PLANT EXCEEDS WHAT THE PLANT CAN ACTUALLY DO. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE HOW PROJECTS DEVELOP AND GROW OVER THERE. 
          GET FUNDING FOR THE REGIONAL PLAN. BUT IF WE ARE BUILDING A LARGE 2436 INCH TRANSMISSION MAIN SECONDARY TRANSMISSION LINES OFF OF IT TO HELP HERE. THEN YEAH. SO WOULD THIS BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT MUCH? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SEPTICS IN THIS AREA. WOULD THAT BE ABLE TO HANDLE ALL THOSE PEOPLE WANTING TO PUMP IN THAT SOMETHING WOULD BE A REGIONAL. OKAY. YEAH. THE GOAL OF THIS PLANT'S LONG, LONG TERM GOAL, IT'S HARD TO BE THE ONLY SEWER PLANT FOR THE CITY. OKAY. EVERYTHING, ALL THESE FLOODPLAINS, THEY ALL GO LIKE, EVEN BOULEVARD GOES THIS WAY. AND SO OUR EXISTING PLANT, IT'S YOU. RIGHT THERE. COULD EVENTUALLY GET, LIKE, PIPED ALL THE WAY OVER THERE. I'LL GRAB IT AS WELL. OKAY. BUT THAT THAT 
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WOULD BE DEFINITELY OUTSIDE OF THIS TEN YEARS. YEAH. FOR THE MORE PROJECTS YOU HAD, THE HIGHER THE HE ENDS UP GOING RIGHT NOW, OUR SEWER IMPACT FEE IS $7,193.50. WATER IS ONLY 2022. SO I THINK. THERE'S ROOM TO GROW ON THE WATER SIDE. AND THEN WE'LL COMPARE IT TO OTHER CITIES TOO AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT. IF YOU WANT TO GO. I THINK THE COUNCIL'S ALREADY ACQUIRED $2 MILLION VERSUS 2,000,002. SO YEAH. SO THOSE COSTS CAN GO TO THE IMPACT FEES AS WELL AS FUTURE WATER SOURCES. ARE WE OVER UTILIZING OUR CURRENT WATER AREA? NO. IT'S STILL UNDER ITS CAPACITY, BUT IT'S ABOUT TO BE EXPANDED. IT'S WE'RE 13 MILLION STICKS OUT OF MY HEAD TO EXPAND THIS PLANT TO 2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. SO I THINK IT'S AT 1.3. AND SIMILARLY, WE'RE DOING PHASES TWO AND THREE OF THE COTTON PLANT TO TAKE IT FROM 200,000 POUNDS TO 600,000. SO WHAT'S THE ESTIMATE? OVERALL CAPACITY USAGE BEFORE WE EXPAND OUT FURTHER? IS IT GOING TO MAXIMIZE THE USAGE EVENTUALLY? YEAH. I MEAN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TEN YEAR PLUS BEFORE YOU BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, FILL A NEW ONE OUT THERE. WELL, IT COULD BE SOONER THAN THAT. IT'S JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH HOW RAPIDLY WE GET DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT THE CITY'S BONDING CAPACITY OR DEVELOPERS ARE PAYING INTO IT OR COMBINING ALL THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK BETWEEN THESE TWO PLANTS LIKE COTTONWOOD, ONE IS PERMITTED UP TO 800,000. SO THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE THEN. SO WE HAVE TWO OF THEM. YEAH, WE HAVE TWO. OKAY. SO THERE'S THE MAIN ONE, WHICH IS $1.3 MILLION. I THOUGHT WE ONLY HAVE ONE THAT HANDLE EVERYTHING WITHIN LONG TERM VISION. YES. IT'S JUST ONE. SO LONG TERM TO CONDENSE TO GET RID OF THOSE TWO. GO THAT WAY. YES. OKAY. YEAH. FOR THIS PLANT, WE HAVE PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR UP TO 800,000 PERMIT FOR SIX. IF WE WANT TO GO TO PHASE FOUR. IF WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          GET APPROVED. YES. YEAH. SAME FOR THE WASTEWATER PLANT. I THINK 2 MILLION IS ITS ULTIMATE PHILADELPHIA. OKAY. UNLESS THEY START SQUEEZING IN SOME MORE TRAINS AND STUFF AND MAYBE EVALUATING. BUT. PUBLIC WORKS AND ALL THE INTENTION IS TO BUILD OUT THESE PLANTS TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THEN STOP EXPANDING THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON THE REGIONAL PLANT THAN SPENDING TENS OF MILLION DOLLARS EXPANDING PLANT STUFF EVENTUALLY, ESPECIALLY THE COTTONWOOD ONES. TEMPORARY TEMPORARY FACILITY TRACKS COULD BE LIKE 25, 30 YEARS LONGER. THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT'S COMING IN THOSE TWO. ARE GOING TO HIT PROBABLY. YEAH. RIGHT. GOOD POINT RIGHT NOW TO KIND OF EVALUATE THIS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE ADDING HOUSES. BUT WE DON'T HAVE LIKE TOO MANY LARGE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE JUST LIKE JUST STARTING NOW. I'M SURE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU POP UP, BUT. 
          LIKE THE BIGGEST SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT JUST IS OVER THAT WAY. A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS ALL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND STUFF LIKE MANUFACTURED HOUSING. BUT. THE CITY IS DOING A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL INTEREST ON 290. WHICH IS LIKE YOUR SUBDIVISIONS AND HOUSES, AND IT'S KIND OF SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT. SO ADDING HOUSES AND EXISTING LOTS AND SUBDIVISIONS. I'M SURE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, EVERYTHING WILL BE BACK TO TRYING TO GET THEIR STUFF ENTITLED. YEAH. IT'S ALSO WORTH MENTIONING THAT IN THIS AREA, THE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN CONTRIBUTING TO THE REGIONAL PLAN. SO. YES, BECAUSE IT'S VERY LIMITED CAPACITY THERE. 
          AND THEY ALL WANT. TO, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING AND ANTICIPATING A LOT OF 
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DEVELOPMENTS THAT WAY OR RESIDENTIAL, DO YOU THINK OF COURSE, OTHER INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL INTEREST AS WELL. SO IF WE STILL USE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT IS ALL SINGLE FAMILY. OKAY. SO THIS IS OUR INDUSTRIAL CLUSTER HERE SOMEWHERE HERE LIKE OVER THIS WAY. YOU KNOW, THE CITY WHERE PRETTY HEMMED IN. YOU KNOW, ELGIN COMES HERE AND LOUISVILLE'S HERE AND AUSTIN'S ALL HERE. SO OUR CITY LIMITS IS ABOUT TEN SQUARE MILES. AND OUR EJ WITH THE CITY LIMITS IS 30. BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ROOM TO GROW BEYOND THAT. AND SO KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SET AS OUR ETJ IS, WORKS WELL FOR OUR PLANNING BOUNDARY. SO IF THERE'S AREAS OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THINK LIKE, HEY, LIKE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY WE THINK MIGHT BE DENSER THAN THAT BECAUSE THE CITY IS CONSTRAINED. I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE ASSUMPTION MAP, HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USES. SO YOU SAID YOU'RE GONNA KIND OF DRAW UP ALL THIS STUFF AND THEN SHOW US A ROUGH DRAFT NEXT TIME. PERFECT. YEAH. I'LL CIRCLE TRANSLATED INTO SOMETHING THAT OUR ENGINEERING TEAM CAN MODIFY AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL, HAVE IT OUT ON THE TABLE FOR YOU. THAT'S THE MOST RECENT ITERATION OF THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS THAT. WE HAVE A RUNNING LIST, BUT IT'S ALSO DRAWN OUT MAPS OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE CURRENTLY EXIST VERSUS WHAT'S PLANNED. SO LIKE 2002, 22, 2022, 23. I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S THE MOST UP TO DATE BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED ALSO. SO YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL IDEA OF WHAT'S COMING. OKAY. THE AREA YOU HAVE ALL GREEN HERE, THERE ARE PARKS AND OPEN SPACES. SO IT'S PARK NOT USING ANY WATER. IT'S PRETTY. OR IS THAT EVENTUALLY CONVERTED? I HEAR. YEAH, ZERO. OKAY. ALSO, THE CREEK LINE IS FOR THE MOST PART. YEAH. THIS ONE, IT'S ALL THE FLOODPLAIN HERE. SO A LOT OF THESE PARCELS. YEAH. SO PARK AREA COULD POTENTIALLY BE DEVELOPED FOR HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL. WOULD BE A LOT OF INFO. IT'D BE A LOT. PART OF THE REASON IT'S CATEGORIZED THAT WAY IS BECAUSE IT'S EFFECTIVELY FLOODPLAIN. SO IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOP IT, YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE THAT, TAKE IT OUT. VERY EXPENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING. OKAY. SO ALL THIS IS WASTEWATER LINES. I WAS KIND OF DRAWN, LIKE IF OUR REGIONAL PLANT HERE, WE'D HAVE TO PUT A GRAVITY LINE HERE. AND THEN THIS PROBABLY, AS I SAID, LIKE THEY WANT TO DEVELOP AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WITHIN THE TEN YEAR PERIOD OF THE CITY, BUT TO SERVE THEM, THERE WOULD BE THE GRAVITY LINE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT ENDS HERE AT CAROLINE. BUT THEY WOULD EXTEND IT. SO USUALLY OUR TRANSMISSION LINES OR PROPERTY LINES AND STUFF, THEY FOLLOW ALL THE CREEKS. SO. THE CITY SPLIT LIKE TWO SERVICE AREAS. BASICALLY LIKE EVERYTHING FROM THIS LINE GOES TO WOLVERINE AND IN THIS WAY GOES TO COTTONWOOD. COULD ANYBODY COME IN AND ELECT TO GO TO THE PFLUGERVILLE PLANT? THAT'S ON. GREG. YES. IF THEY'RE NOT IN OUR CITY LIMITS OR IN OUR SEWER SYSTEM, IF THEY'RE NOT IN OUR CITY LIMITS OR OUR SEWER CAN, THEY COULD. AND IT'S HARD TO DO. MAYBE WE COULD TRY THIS EXERCISE, BUT UPDATING OUR SEWER KEN WITH THE PUC, BECAUSE THAT WOULD JUST BEEN UPDATED SINCE LIKE THE 80S, AND IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF OUR CITY LIMITS AT ALL. IT'S LIKE THIS WEIRD SHAPE THAT'S JUST 
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SORT OF PULL OUT OVER THIS WAY. AND SO IT'S JUST IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AT THE PUC. BUT THERE ARE AREAS OF IT. WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS ITEM ON THE TOUR OF AREAS THAT WE WANT TO DECERTIFY FROM OUR WASTEWATER. KEN. AND I GUESS THAT RAISES SOME ISSUES WITH THE PUC, BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE TAKING AWAY SOMEONE'S SERVICE. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF HIGHER BAR TO DO THAT. LIKE IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO EXPAND YOUR SEWER, KEN. AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW THE ABILITY TO SERVE. THERE USED TO BE, I THINK JUST FOLLOWING UP WITH THEM AND JUST RECORDED IT. AND NOW THEY ACTUALLY REQUIRE THAT YOU SHOW THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SERVE WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. BUT CLEANING UP OUR, ESPECIALLY OUR SEWER KEN BOUNDARY WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IF YOU'RE IN OUR KEN, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO SERVE YOU. SO EVEN IF THERE'S PROPERTIES UP HERE THAT ARE IN IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS, AND THAT USED TO NOT NECESSARILY BE AN ISSUE WITH ANNEXATION. YOU CAN'T REQUIRE ANNEXATION ANYMORE. PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET OUT OF OUR ETJ SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS. CITY HAS NO CONTROL OVER IT. THEY DON'T REVIEW ANY OF THE PERMITS, BUT THEN WE SUBDIVIDE THEM SEWER SERVICE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY APPEARS LIKE WE HAVEN'T ASSIGNED ANY VALUE TO IT. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN OUR SEWER, KEN. AND THEY SAY WE'RE WILLING TO RUN A SERVICE. LIKE YOU CAN'T DENY IT. AND SO THEY WERE GETTING, YOU KNOW, 500 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX AND NOT PLANNED ANYTHING. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SERVICE AREA THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SERVICE OR INTEND TO SERVICE. BUT AGAIN, IT'S CHALLENGING WITH THE PVC. SOMETHING ALSO WORTH NOTING IS WITHIN THE PLAN. EVERYTHING'S OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOTCHA. YEAH. SO UNLESS YOU'RE LATERAL OR SLIGHTLY PROBABLY MORE EXPENSIVE. THEY ALSO CHARGE THE CITY ON. TO TAKE UP THEIR CAPACITY. WE DO THAT EXERCISE A LITTLE BIT WHEN THESE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN, BECAUSE THIS AREA OF THE CITY WAS GOING TO BE SERVED BY THE PFLUGERVILLE PLANT. MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO BECAUSE THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS NEVER FORMALIZED FOR THAT. AND IN THAT SAME AGREEMENT IS WHEN WE WORKED OUT OUR JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY, PFLUGERVILLE, WHICH IS WHY IT FOLLOWS PROPERTY LINES IN THIS AREA. IT'S LIKE IT'S IN HERE. AND SO THAT PART HAPPENED. BUT THE PART WHERE PFLUGERVILLE HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED TO, YOU KNOW, SEND FLOWS TO THEIR PLANT NEVER HAPPENED. AND SO WHEN NEW HAVEN OPERA AND MONARCH WERE COMING ABOUT, WE ASKED THEM ABOUT IT AND THEY SAID, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. SO WE'LL CONSIDER IT IF YOU PAY US. WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. SO. ENCIRCLE THIS ONE TO. SO THIS IS THE CITY'S PROPERTY NOW. SO WE OWN THIS 236 ACRES. AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING TO POTENTIALLY HAVE A REGIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX. AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE COME TO COUNCIL AND TALK ABOUT IT. BUT US JUST LOOKING AT VERIFYING IF COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, WHICH I THINK IS LIKE. YEAH. TWO LOUISE, IF THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR THAT TYPE OF INTENSIVE USE AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THE. NEXT. OR, OR MAYBE THAT, THAT SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT COULD HELP. YEAH. 
          HELP GET THINGS DOWN THERE. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S QUITE AN AMBITIOUS PROJECT THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON OR CONSIDERING. THERE'S NOTHING FORMAL YET, BUT I KNOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING ALSO SUPPORTS THE OTHER CITY. THANKS. YES. YEAH. COMMERCIAL. THIS PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH ACQUISITION. BEEN AWARDED 25. LOUISE 45. LOUISE. 
          THANK YOU. THEY'RE REQUESTING THEIR. THE CITIES HAVE EVALUATED THE CAPACITY AND 
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OTHER DEVELOPMENT DEMANDS OVER THERE. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT EVEN FACTORED INTO THE. TO SUBMIT A HOME. YEAH. THEY DID DO FILL IN PROPERTY. WE RAISED THIS. VERY, VERY. BUT THERE'S NOT A PORTION OF IT. THAT YOU DON'T TOUCH. THE WAYBACK THAT WAS ALREADY OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. RIGHT OVER FOR YOU. THANK YOU SIR. YEAH. 
          JUST. 
          SO DO I MAKE. YEAH. YOU'LL. JUST SAY IT. TIME TO ADJOURN. OKAY, SO TIME IS 729. 
          MEETING ADJOURNED. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 727. WHAT'S THAT? 72707 20 8:00 11:00 THAT'S WHY. ALL RIGHT. TIME IS.
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