[CALL TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCE A QUORUM IS PRESENT]
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I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND ANNOUNCE THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC
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COMMENTS. NON AGENDA ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS. COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THE NON AGENDA RELATED TOPIC FOR LENGTH OF TIME NOT TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.AGENDA ITEM COMMENTS. COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE AUDIENCE ON NON AGENDA ITEMS COMBINED FOR THE LENGTH OF NOT TO EXCEED FIVE MINUTES TOTAL PER PERSON ALL THE TIME ON ALL TIME EXCEPT FOR PUBLIC HEARING. COMMENTS ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS MUST BE MADE WHEN THE ITEM COMES BEFORE THE BOARD COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONS COMMITTEE AND NOT TO EXCEED TWO MINUTES PER PERSON. NO ACTION OR DISCUSSION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE BOARD COMMISSIONS COMMITTEE DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS AND NON AGENDA ITEMS. GEORGE ASKED THE BOARD. COMMISSION COMMITTEE, PLEASE COMPLETE THE LEG. OKAY, I GOT THAT. ALL RIGHT. MR. ROBERT BOTTLE. THANK YOU SIR. ACTUALLY SHOULD BE PRONOUNCED BATTYE. BATTYE. BUT I PRONOUNCE IT BATTLE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MY FAMILY IS PRONOUNCED IT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. MY FAMILY GOES WAY BACK. EVEN IF I DIDN'T KNOW BETTER, I WOULD SAY YOU GUYS WERE LIKE DOING SOME READING THERE. DO THEY NOT SEND YOU THIS STUFF IN ADVANCE? YEAH, I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO DO SOME CONFLICT OF INTEREST ETHICS STATEMENTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE. I'D LIKE TO SEE ALL OF YOUR RESUMES.
YOU DON'T GET TO WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE MR. DAVIS. HE HAS A PROPERTY OVER HERE ON THE YOU KNOW, HE DESTROYED THE BARBER SHOP. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT WATER SYSTEM UP AND DOWN THAT LEXINGTON, HE DOESN'T GET TO VOTE ON IT. THIS WHOLE THING IS A CHARADE. THIS IS A GIVEAWAY COMMITTEE. THIS IS THE DEVELOPERS IN CHARGE OF SETTING THEIR OWN FEES. THE BUILDERS ARE DETERMINING THE MONEY THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO PAY AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE AND PUSH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ON THE CITIZENS OF OUR WONDERFUL CITY. GUESS WHO DID THIS? GOVERNOR ABBOTT? HE DID THIS AT THE LAST CONGRESSIONAL SESSION. THEY RAISED THE AMOUNT OF BUILDER DEVELOPER TYPES ON THIS COMMITTEE TO REQUIRE 50% INSTEAD OF 40%. 50% IS FOR PEOPLE. WELL, I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THAT THROWN OUT, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT MAY BE A LEGISLATIVE MORE THAN A COURT THING. WE HAVE A COURT HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 4TH FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE BEING SUED. PERSONALLY, A PERSONAL LAWSUIT MEANS THAT I THINK YOU KNEW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND YOU NEED TO PAY FOR IT. AND IF YOU DID THAT, THE JURY IS GOING TO SET AN AMOUNT, AND IT COULD BE THREE TIMES WHAT THEY SET.
AND WHEN I GO TO THE FEDERAL RACKETEERING LAWSUIT, IT COULD BE THREE TIMES THAT. NOW I NOTICE MICHELLE ANDERSON'S NOT HERE AGAIN. NOW, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN YOU CAN ONLY MISS SO MANY MEETINGS AND THEN YOU'RE OFF. MICHELLE IS, OF COURSE, PETE DWYER'S OFFICE MANAGER FOR LIKE SEVERAL YEARS. SEE THIS MAP HERE? THIS IS TOTAL BS. THIS IS A PETE DWYER GIVEAWAY. PETE DWYER'S BEEN RUNNING THIS TOWN FOR LIKE 30 YEARS. OKAY, NOW HERE WE HAVE THE GROWTH RATE ON THIS THING. IT DOESN'T SAY THE GROWTH RATE. SO JUST FOR ANNOUNCEMENT, THE CITY USED TO THINK IT WAS GROWING AT LIKE 3 OR 4% UNTIL ROBERT BATTLE WENT THROUGH AND ACTUALLY MULTIPLIED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN EACH IN EACH LITTLE DEVELOPMENT AND DIVIDED IT OVER THE YEARS. AND THEN I TOLD THE CITY, IT'S CLOSER TO 14%. AND THEN GUESS WHAT? THEY STARTED DEVELOPING IT. YOU KNOW, IF WE TELL THESE PEOPLE SOMETHING SMART, SOMETIMES THEY ACTUALLY DO IT. OKAY, NOW THIS IS SOME THINGS I'M GOING TO ASK MR. BURRELL TO BE FIND YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH? SEE THIS THING HERE? YOU SEE THE MIDDLE OF THAT LEGAL REVIEW? NOT APPLICABLE. ARE WE KIDDING? I DON'T SEE THE CITY. CITY ATTORNEYS AREN'T HERE EITHER.
WHY IS THAT? FISCAL IMPACT? NO. COME ON. THESE ARE PUBLIC FEES FOR ROADS AND WATER AND WASTEWATER. AND YOU'RE TELLING US THERE IS NO, NO FISCAL IMPACT. HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK I
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SHOULD ASK THE JURY TO FIND YOU FOR THAT? 500. 1000? YOU DID THIS ON. EVERY SINGLE ONE HAS THIS. THAT'S LIKE FIVE. OKAY. LET'S SAY IT'S A THOUSAND BUCKS TIMES FIVE AGENDA ITEMS, TIMES TRIPLE DAMAGES. LET'S SEE. FIVE TIMES. WHAT DID I SAY, 1000 OR 500? IT GETS UP FAST. THIS ONE MEETING COULD COST YOU $30,000. DUDE, DO YOU KNOW WHY HE'S MAKING YOU SIGN THESE? DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK THAT MIKE BURRELL IS IN CHARGE OF THIS DEPARTMENT? SCOTT DUNLOP STILL RUNNING THE SHOW. HE'S BEEN RUNNING THE TOWN FOR TEN YEARS. BUT HOW WOULD YOU GUYS KNOW THAT? THE CITY NEVER TELLS ANYBODY ANYTHING. AND THE NEWSPAPER. NOW IT'S THE TAYLOR TIMES. IT'S WORSE THAN IT WAS. I'M SUING DORI WEST TO. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST REALLY SAD THAT IT'S COME TO THIS. YEAH. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, NO FISCAL IMPACT. COME ON. THESE MAPS ARE COMPLICATED. AND IN CASE YOU HADN'T FIGURED THIS OUT, THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT COMMITTEE. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT FOR YEARS, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ME. I WORK ON THIS CRAP FOR LIKE, 8 OR 10 HOURS A DAY. I'VE HAD TO BECOME A LAWYER TO SAVE MY TOWN. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, THEY KEEP PUTTING CHUMPS ON ALL THESE COMMITTEES THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY'RE DOING. IT COULDN'T CARE LESS ANYWAY. I'M GLAD TO SEE PAULINE'S HERE.MAYBE SHE CAN DECIDE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WATER DITCH. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES UP THERE. MAY I FINISH MY SENTENCE? GO AHEAD. IF IT'S NOT LONG. PARDON ME. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
YEAH. A WATER DITCH IS NOT A PARK LAND. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. FOR OUR CONSENT
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AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR JULY 13TH, 2026. COMMUNITY IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. REGULAR SESSIONS.REGULAR AGENDA CONSIDERATIONS. DISCUSSION. THERE HAS TO BE A MOTION. YEAH. THANK YOU. I ASK FOR MOTION TO APPROVE FOR THE MEETING. YOU JUST ASKED FOR A MOTION, AND THEN ONE OF THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS WILL MAKE A MOTION TO WHICH SOMEONE SECONDS AND THEN YOU VOTE. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST ASK FOR A MOTION. APPROVE ANYONE? A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION A SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT.
MOVING ON TO TAKE A VOTE. WHAT'S THAT? HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE. YOU HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED. VOTE ZERO. SO THEN YOU'LL STATE THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, I MOTION PASSED. ALL AGREED. RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'LL GET THERE. ALL RIGHT. FOR
[REGULAR AGENDA]
REGULAR AGENDA CONSIDERATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON SETTLING SETTING POPULATION PROJECTIONS. DO WE. YES. SO THIS ITEM IS TO DISCUSS THE PREVIOUSLY SET POPULATION PROJECTION AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY SETTING A NEW ONE. WHAT YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP ARE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS PERTAINING TO WATER AND WASTEWATER WITH A. WITH REFERENCE TO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE USAGES FOR LIEU. AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE POPULATION ESTIMATES MOST RECENTLY PUBLISHED FOR THE CITY IN OUR REPORTS AND THE IN-PROGRESS AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE PAULINE GRAY HERE WITH GBHA TO ELABORATE ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER LOVES, AS WELL AS DISCUSS THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. PAULINE GRAY WITH GBA. SO BASICALLY WE USE THE PREVIOUS PROJECTION OF 7% GROWTH RATE PER YEAR. THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN 2023. AND THAT'S WHAT WAS COORDINATED WITH THE CITY'S OTHER CONSULTANT THAT WAS HELPING WITH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FEES FOR EXISTING RESIDENTS. AND WE CAME UP WITH THE 7%, AND THAT WAS BASED ON THE GROWTH THAT WE WERE SEEING AT THE TIME. SO, OKAY, SO BASICALLY THIS IS JUST AN[00:10:01]
ESTIMATE SHOWING, OKAY, RIGHT NOW GOING INTO THE WEILBURGER WASTEWATER PLANT BECAUSE WE WERE FIRST, RIGHT? YEAH, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 7000 LOSE GOING IN AND COTTONWOOD IS ABOUT 1000. AND WHAT WE DID IS WE TAKE THAT AND YOU ADD THE 7% GROWTH RATE. AND SO IT BASICALLY GOES BETWEEN 2026 AND 2036. AN ESTIMATE ABOUT HOW MANY ADDITIONAL LOOS WILL BE ADDED TO EACH OF THE WASTEWATER PLANTS. AND WHAT THAT DOES, IT SAYS, OKAY, WELL, WE'LL BARGUR THEY'RE ABOUT TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THE EXPANSION TO EXPAND IT TO 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. SO THAT WAS NOT THE ISSUE. COTTONWOOD. WE'RE WORKING ON PLANS RIGHT NOW. THERE'S IT CAN BE UP TO FOUR PHASES. PHASE ONE IS ALREADY IN THE GROUND, AND PHASE TWO AND THREE ARE ABOUT TO BE COMBINED AND GO OUT TOGETHER. AND SO WILBARGER IS THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT OVER THERE BY PUBLIC WORKS OFF OF GREG STREET. COTTONWOOD IS THE ONE WAY OUT THERE TO THE EAST WHERE THE PAST OLD KIMBROUGH. IT'S PRETTY FAR OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S FOR ALL THE GROWTH THAT'S IN THE EAST. AND SO BASICALLY I SAID, WE JUST TOOK THE NUMBERS AND WE YOU KNOW WHAT WE ESTIMATED RIGHT NOW? AND THEN DID A 7% GROWTH RATE FOR EACH YEAR BETWEEN 2026 AND 2036. AND WE AVERAGED DEMAND OF 200 GALLONS PER DAY PER CONNECTION. AND THAT IS TYPICAL FOR WASTEWATER IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WE JUST WE DID THE SAME THING FOR WATER. SO WATER WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE PORTIONS OF THE CITY GET THEIR WATER FROM MANVILLE AND NOT THE CITY OF MANER. SO THE WATER USE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER BECAUSE METER WILL TREAT THE WASTEWATER BUT NOT THE WATER.AND SO WE'RE TALKING BELLE FARMS, CARRIAGE HILLS, PORTIONS OF STONE WATER. THOSE ARE SERVED BY MANVILLE. AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE IS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER. LOUISE. THAT'S WHY THERE'S MORE WASTEWATER SHOWN, BECAUSE ANY WASTEWATER IN THE CITY GOES TO ONE OF THOSE TWO PLANTS, WHEREAS WATER IS THERE'S OTHER WATER PROVIDERS. BUT WIENER PROVIDES THE WASTEWATER.
SCOTT, DID YOU UPDATE THIS ONE? YEAH. SO THIS ONE IS JUST SHOWING THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS AND HOW THEY'VE INCREASED. AND THAT'S BASICALLY HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE 7% GROWTH RATE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, SINCE 2022, HOW MANY MULTIFAMILY UNITS HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE CITY. AND IT DOES INCLUDE THE POPULATIONS OF CHATEAU GLEN AND PRESIDENTIAL MEADOWS. BUT MAYNARD DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY UTILITY SERVICES TO EITHER OF THOSE. BUT IT'S JUST SHOWING. YOU KNOW, MAINERS GOT THIS POPULATION. BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY ADD IN THESE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS, TOO, IT'S EVEN HIGHER. AND THEN THESE ARE JUST EXHIBITS THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES UPDATES AS NEW PROJECTS COME IN. AND IT'S SPLIT UP BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, EDUCATIONAL AND INSTITUTIONAL. AND SO I GUESS, SCOTT, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THESE BECAUSE YOU WERE WORKING ON THE UPDATES WHILE I WAS ON VACATION? JUST A SHORT MISSION. YEAH, IT'S JUST INFORMATION TO KIND OF SHOW YOU HOW, WHAT THE PROJECTS, WHAT EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE IN THE CITY. AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, THEN IT HAS IT BROKEN DOWN BY RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS COMMERCIAL, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS INDUSTRIAL. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT INSTITUTIONAL. ARE WE MISSING ONE? SO. SO I GUESS DO THEY NEED TO DECIDE ANYTHING FOR THE POPULATION, I GUESS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FIRST OF ALL. THAT'S THE ESTIMATE ACCOUNT FOR, I DON'T KNOW, CONSTRUCTION DELAY OR THERE'S MORE HOUSEHOLD FAMILY THAT MOVES OUT THAN MOVING IN OR IF IT'S SHORTFALL. SO IT I HAVEN'T
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CHECKED FOR 2026 YET, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK IT'S BEEN PRETTY CLOSE TO THE 7% GROWTH RATE. MICHAEL. Y'ALL TRACKED THAT MORE THAN I DO. SO THE WAY WE DO OUR POPULATION ESTIMATES CURRENTLY IS BASED ON UTILITY ACCOUNT CONNECTIONS. SO WE'LL TAKE THE NUMBER OF UTILITY ACCOUNTS WE HAVE AT THE FIRST OF THE MONTH. AND WE'LL PLUG IT INTO A FORMULA TO DETERMINE THE ESTIMATED POPULATION IN THE CITY LIMITS. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF NO ONE ELSE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA. SO BEFORE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK THEM. AND IT CAN BE ABOUT ANYTHING, BE IT SOMETHING YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. FURTHER ELABORATION OR CLARIFICATION. BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO EITHER CONTINUE WITH THE PREVIOUSLY SET GROWTH RATE PERCENTAGE, OR SUGGEST A NEW ONE. IF YOU COMPARE THIS GROWTH RATE PERCENTAGE TO WHAT YOUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS ARE, HOW DOES IT TRACK WITH THAT? THIS AVERAGE GROWTH RATE VERSUS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING AND YOU KNOW, IS COMING ONLINE AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THAT KIND OF TRACKS WITH THAT? AND IF IT'S GOING TO LOOK ABOUT THE SAME.THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S GREAT. HOW THAT'S GOING TO MESH UP WITH WITH WHAT YOU KNOW IS COMING. SO BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OUT THERE. YES. AND TO THAT POINT, WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN REEVALUATING HOW WE DO OUR POPULATION ESTIMATES JUST BECAUSE THE CURRENT METHODOLOGY UTILIZES CENSUS DATA, BUT THE CENSUS ISN'T UPDATED VERY FREQUENTLY. AND ALSO THEY CHANGE THE PERSONS PER HOUSEHOLD RELATIVELY FREQUENTLY. SO OUR NUMBERS SHIFT SOMEWHAT DRASTICALLY. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHERE THE PERSONS PER HOUSEHOLD WAS 3.2, AND THAT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED OUR POPULATION, AND THEN IT DROPPED TO 2.97. SO ON PAPER, IT LOOKED LIKE WE LOST A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN IN REALITY NOTHING HAS REALLY SHIFTED. SO TO THAT POINT, THIS FORMULA DOES NOT ADEQUATELY ACCOUNT FOR WHAT'S COMING JUST BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON UTILITY CONNECTIONS. SO WE'LL NEED TO REEVALUATE THAT. AND FOR THE CALCULATIONS FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER. THAT'S WHAT THE LAND USE MAP THAT I WENT OVER AT THE LAST MEETING. THAT'S WHAT THAT DOES. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE AREAS THEY'RE SET BY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR THIS TRACT OF LAND AND THERE'S CALCULATIONS. AND SO THAT WILL BE HIGHER THAN THE GROWTH RATE. BUT WE COMPARE THEM JUST TO MAKE SURE. AND SO I MEAN, WE HAVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE WE DO KNOW WHAT'S COMING IN AND WE JUST TRY TO ESTIMATE IT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN WE GET SUBMITTALS IN AND STUFF, WE ASK FOR PHASES, YOU KNOW, TIMELINE. WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ALL 500? LEWIS. AND SO AND SO WE DO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. HOW DO YOU USE. THE YOUR MAP? OH, OKAY. HOW DO YOU USE THEM. YOUR LAND USE MAP ALONG WITH THAT POPULATION DATA. HOW DO THEY TWO MERGE? BECAUSE THEY KIND OF LOOK LIKE THEY'RE BASED UPON DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS. AND SO THEY'RE KIND OF NOT NECESSARILY CONGRUENT WITH ONE ANOTHER. WELL THE, THE POPULATION DATA THAT I DO IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF LEWIS. SO IT GOES WITH THE LAND USE MAP. HOW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOES IT. THEY DO IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. BUT I CAN SAY THAT WHEN WE DID IT IN 2023, 7%, IT WAS A LITTLE LOW AT THE TIME, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE, THE COMMITTEE AT THE TIME SET IT AT. AFTER MEETING SEVERAL MEETINGS, GOING OVER IT. YEAH. I MEAN, BECAUSE I, I DON'T LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE I LOOK AT. WE GET THE WATER REPORTS. I'M LIKE, OKAY, WELL, MINE ARE USED X AMOUNT OF WATER AND YOU TAKE THAT. AND SO THEY GAVE US DATA FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. YOU LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, IT IS GROWING ABOUT 7% BASED ON THE WATER USAGE. AND THEN THE WASTEWATER THAT ENDS UP AT THE WASTEWATER PLANTS. SO WE DO TRACK ALL THAT. SO I KNOW IT SAYS POPULATION, BUT I TRACK IT MORE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW, THEY COULD HAVE TEN PEOPLE IN ONE HOUSE AND ONE PERSON IN ANOTHER. SO I DON'T LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. I LOOK AT THE CONNECTIONS. RIGHT. AND SINCE YOU'RE TAKING THE METERS INTO ACCOUNT, I GUESS THEY DO KIND OF. YES. THAT'S WHERE THEY TIE UP. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU REEVALUATE THE ESTIMATE TWICE A YEAR OR JUST TO SEE WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE WE CLOSE OR FAR OFF
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OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE HAVEN'T DONE IT FOR TWO YEARS, BUT WE WE DO KEEP TRACK OF IT, AT LEAST THE FLOW GOING INTO THE WASTEWATER PLANTS, BECAUSE THAT DOES TRIGGER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY TCDC. SO WE DO KEEP TRACK OF THAT. AND WE HAVE A ACTIVE WATER MODEL.SO WHEN ANYTHING COMES IN, THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WE NEED THIS MUCH WATER. WE PUT IT IN THE WATER MODEL AND SEE HOW IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING. SO WE DO KEEP TRACK OF IT. BUT LIKE FOR LIKE AN ACTUAL LIKE UPDATE FOR LIKE THE IMPACT FEES, WE CAN'T UPDATE THAT WITHOUT RECONVENING THE COMMITTEE AND HAVING THESE HEARINGS AND MEETINGS. AND SO WE, WE DO KEEP TRACK INTERNALLY, BUT IT'S NOT, I GUESS, PUBLISHED, BUT WE, WE DO TRACK IT. AND THAT'S WHAT I USE TO UPDATE THE NUMBERS TO GO OUT TO 2036. BECAUSE WHEN WE DID IT PREVIOUSLY, WE WENT FROM 2023 TO 2033. AND SO I JUST WENT IN THERE AND UPDATED IT BECAUSE PART OF THE LAW, YOU CAN, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT FOR EVERY FOR TEN YEARS, THE NEXT TEN YEARS. I CAN'T SAY PREVIOUSLY THERE WERE YEARS WHERE WE UPDATED IT ALMOST EVERY YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH. AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO HELP COVER SOME OF THESE COSTS IS, YOU KNOW, MEET SET THE IMPACT FEES. AND THE CITY USES SOME OF THAT MONEY TO CONSTRUCT WHAT'S REQUIRED TO SERVE NEW DEVELOPMENTS. OKAY. AND THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM WOULD BE TO DETERMINE IF 7% SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE GROWTH RATE. SO BASED OFF THE INFORMATION PRESENTED AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN WITHIN THE CITY, YOU WOULD THEN USE THAT KNOWLEDGE TO DETERMINE IF YOU FEEL 7% ISN'T ADEQUATE. POPULATION GROWTH RATE YOU FEEL, IF YOU FEEL IT'S HIGHER, IF YOU FEEL IT'S LOWER. SO, I MEAN, HISTORICALLY, HAS IT BEEN PRETTY ACCURATE? I CAN SAY THE 7% WHEN WE DID IT IN 2023 WAS A LITTLE LOW, BUT WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE CITY'S RATE CONSULTANT THAT WAS WORKING ON THEIR WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES. AND THAT'S WHAT WAS NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THEM AND THE COMMITTEE. BUT LOOKING AT WHAT'S BEEN DONE RECENTLY, 7% KIND OF MIDWAY, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE DONE ANYTHING BECAUSE IT MAY BE ACTUALLY CLOSER TO LIKE 8 OR 9%. BUT LIKE THAT, I JUST FORGET IT. HOW STUFF GETS INCREASED IN THE, IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, NOT ACTUAL LIKE POPULATION. SO I GUESS IT WOULD BE WITH THE CURRENT WHATEVER WE CURRENTLY ALREADY HAVE APPROVED COMING INTO THE CITY. DO YOU SEE THAT NUMBER NEEDING TO GET CHANGED, I GUESS? I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE GROWING FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE HAVE PLENTY OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS STILL INTERESTED. WE HAVE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS STILL INTERESTED, AND THE GROWTH OUTSIDE OF MARKET CONDITIONS AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES HASN'T REALLY STOPPED.
AND YOU SAY THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE PREVIOUS YEARS HAVE BEEN A HUGE POPULATION BOOM, BUT DO YOU STILL SEE THAT COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE? BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS SEEN PRETTY STAGNANT GROWTH IN REGARDS TO BODIES AND DOORS. WE STILL HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE MET WITH RECENTLY THAT ARE STILL WANT TO COME INTO THE CITY. I CAN TELL YOU WE'RE UPDATING THE WATER MODEL. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL STUFF COMING IN THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, AFFECT THE CITY UTILITIES TO. BUT WHEN YOU SAY STUFF COMING IN, DO YOU JUST MEAN DEVELOPERS OR DO YOU MEAN PERSONNEL? BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY CAN BUILD IT, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY GET A BODY IN THERE IS ANOTHER THING. WHAT WE CAN SAY IS THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A 300 ACRE PROPERTY THAT'S LOOKING TO DEVELOP RESIDENTIALLY AND NOT TOO FAR EAST OF THAT. THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT'S 50 ACRES THAT WANTS TO DEVELOP RESIDENTIALLY, AND THEN THERE'S PROJECTS NORTH OF THAT THAT WANT TO DO SOMETHING MORE COMMERCIAL OR INSTITUTIONAL. SO TO YOUR POINT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN NECESSARILY PREDICT HOW FAST, PARTICULARLY THE RESIDENTIAL ITEMS WILL FILL UP, BUT WE DO HAVE VERY STRONG INTEREST IN DEVELOPING A LOT OF LAND. AND I
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THINK KEEP IN MIND WE'RE LOOKING AT A TEN YEAR PROJECTION, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIPS AND THERE MAY BE A DIP THIS YEAR. I KNOW IT'S SLOW IN THE MARKET TO BUY THESE.BUT I MEAN IF THEY'RE AS LONG AS THEY ARE STILL PROJECTING THEM AND THEY'RE STILL BUILDING THEM AND THEY'VE GOT APPROVED PERMITS, I ASSUME THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP AND AT SOME POINT THE BODIES WILL FILL THEM OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, HOPEFULLY SOONER THAN THAT. BUT SO DOES THESE PROJECTIONS ALREADY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN APPROVED ALREADY. SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE CURRENT POPULATION ESTIMATE. OKAY. FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S IN USE RIGHT NOW FROM A RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE. AND THEN WHAT IT DOES STARTING FROM 2027 THROUGH 2036 IS IT ESTIMATES IF IF THAT 7% DOES HAPPEN, WHAT HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE CITY SYSTEMS. SO THAT'S WHAT THE INCREASE IS FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER. AND THAT'LL BE THE OTHER DOCUMENTS, NOT THE POPULATION ESTIMATES. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING BEFORE. LIKE THE POPULATION ESTIMATE DOESN'T NECESSARILY TELL YOU WHAT'S PLANNED ON THE HORIZON, BUT PAULINE'S TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE LAND USE MAP THAT SHOWS WHAT PROJECTED STUFF IS OUT THERE AND HOW MANY LAWS WILL BE REQUIRED. SO HOW MUCH WATER AND WASTEWATER IS REQUIRED FOR ALL THOSE AND TRACKING THAT. AND SOMEHOW THESE ALL MESH IN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT METERS, NEW METERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THEN THAT SHOULD TIE IN TO THE LEVY COUNT IF WE HAD IT RIGHT. YEAH. YES. THEY SHOULD MATCH UP AT SOME POINT, BUT IT SHOULD TAKE BOTH SIDES INTO THE EQUATION. CENSUS ESTIMATE ALONG WITH PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. YES. ALEX SAID THAT'S WHY WE ASKED WHEN PEOPLE SUBMIT CONCEPT PLANS AND WHAT WHEN IS THIS PHASE GOING IN AND WHAT HOW MANY DO YOU NEED PER PHASE? BECAUSE WE ALSO INCLUDE THAT IN THE CALCULATIONS AS WELL TO HELP TRACK IT AS BEST WE CAN. NOW, I CAN SAY YOU GET ESTIMATES AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE OVERZEALOUS AND THEY DON'T GET DEVELOPED AS QUICK. BUT YEAH, YOU'D RATHER HAVE THE STUFF IN THERE AND NOT BE PLAYING CATCH UP SHORT. SO THAT'S THE OTHER ISSUE. YEAH. AND ALSO WE DON'T WANT TO OVERUSE OR WASTE FACILITY, RIGHT. OVERUSE OR WASTE FACILITY IF WE UNDERESTIMATE. YES, WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT TOO AS WELL. BECAUSE ONCE YOU REACH A CERTAIN CAPACITY AND YOUR WASTEWATER PLANTS, IT TRIGGERS TCE. Q AND YOU THERE'S REQUIREMENTS. AND YEAH, SO WE TRY TO AVOID THAT FOR THOSE AT HOME. TC IS A TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. YES. SORRY. I JUST THINK IT WAS A GREAT. IF YOU THINK 7% IS STILL AN ACCURATE GROWTH RATE PROJECTION, YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE WITH 7%. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A SECOND IF SOMEONE SECONDS AND THEN A YAY OR NAY VOTE. OKAY. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE A MEDIUM NUMBER THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE CITY CAN UTILIZE. I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO OVERDO IT, RIGHT? SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT.
RIGHT? EXACTLY. THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTOR INVOLVED. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONE AND ONLY THING YOU'RE DOING. CORRECT. TO MAKE DECISIONS. SO THE ESTIMATE IS ANYTHING I GUESS. YEAH. SO I CALL THEM MOTIONS. YES SIR. YEAH. YOU WOULD REQUEST A MOTION. SO I SPECIFICALLY WOULD ASK IS THERE A MOTION. OH OKAY. IS THERE A MOTIONS MOTION TO APPROVE TO APPROVE. RIGHT. YES.
I MOTION. WE APPROVE THE GROWTH RATE OF 7% AS SHOWN. SECOND I SECOND THE MOTION I MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR. ALL VOTED AYE. ALL OPPOSED. YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO ASK FOR IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED. OH. ALL IN FAVOR. OPPOSED. OPPOSED. AND THEN YOU STATE THE RESULT. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOTION PASSED. I'LL VOTE. ALL RIGHT. A THIRD AGENDA FOR THE NIGHT IS CONSIDERATION. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTIONS TO EVALUATE THE LAND USE ASSUMPTION MAP. SO IN THE BACKUP IS THE CURRENT THE CURRENT ANTICIPATED LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS MAP. THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF YOU AGREE WITH WHAT'S ANTICIPATED AND PROPOSED, OR IF YOU FEEL SOMETHING SHOULD BE CHANGED. NOW'S THE TIME TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION SO THAT IT CAN BE. IS THE MAP WE REVIEWED LAST WEEK WITH THE WITH THE DISCUSS CHANGES? YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH. WITH THE CHANGES. YEAH.
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SO YOU'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANYTHING GOING INTO THESE SPOTS ALONG TONIGHT. AND I'M TERRIBLE WITH THESE MAPS, BUT THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ZONED FOR THEM.YOU'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANYTHING IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS HAPPENING THERE. WHICH AREAS ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO? THE NORTH SIDE OF 290. ANYTHING NOT IN THE YES, MA'AM.
ANYTHING NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED. GOTCHA. OKAY. NEVER MIND. YOU'RE RIGHT.
I DIDN'T READ THAT WELL. I WAS GONNA SAY THERE ARE A FEW AREAS ON THIS MAP THAT I GUESS I WAS OUT THE LAST MEETING. I WAS ON VACATION. THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. OH, YOU ARE CORRECT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF. SCOTT, IF YOU WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY, THE MAJORITY OF THE ITEMS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED WOULD BE SUBDIVISIONS OR ANYTHING THAT'S CURRENTLY USED. RESIDENTIALLY. OKAY. IT SEEMS PRETTY REASONABLE. MOST OF IT'S SKEWED TO MIXED USE AND RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS GOING TO GIVE YOU HIGHER LOWS ANYWAY. SO THAT'S SAFER THAN GOING TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL. SO IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'D HAVE ENOUGH THEORETICALLY WITH THESE PLAN CHANGES.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OF MAYNARD. OH AND LAND USE TABLE, THAT'S AFTER THE MAP WHEN IT SAYS MIXED USE ALONG 290. THAT INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, RIGHT. SO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER COUNT THAN JUST A STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL OR A. YEAH, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL WANT TO DO LIKE A COMBINATION OF LIKE COMMERCIAL AT THE FRONT AND THEN MULTIFAMILY AT THE BACK IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING FOR SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE SHOWN AS MIXED USE. AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE MIXED USE IS. SO THAT'S PRETTY SAFE IN TERMS OF CAPACITY BUILDING. I MEAN, AGAIN, VERSUS JUST A COMMERCIAL LOT THAT WOULD HAVE A LOWER LIEU COUNT, PROBABLY. YEAH, YEAH. MULTIFAMILY. I MEAN, THEY USE MORE THAN LIKE A, A STORE WOULD. BUT JUST BECAUSE IT'S SHOWN LIKE THIS WAY IN THE LAND USE MAP, THAT IS NOT ZONING. SO IT'S NOT BEEN ZONED. SO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO IN AND GET THE CORRECT ZONING TO DEVELOP ANY OF THAT STUFF. SO IT'S LIKE THAT, THIS DOESN'T SET ZONING. THIS IS JUST WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S ALL THIS IS. THIS IS NOT A ZONING MAP AT ALL, BECAUSE SOME OF THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ZONING. IT ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS FOR ADEQUATE PLANNING OF UTILITY USAGE. SO THERE MAY BE A MORE INTENSIVE USE ANTICIPATED INTO SOMETHING LESSER GOES THERE. WE'RE STILL ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'D BE ADEQUATELY COVERED THROUGH THIS CORRIDOR BASED UPON THE ASSUMPTIONS. MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE ON THIS
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TO APPROVE. WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO ON THIS ONE? IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ANYONE HAS, YOU CAN CERTAINLY REQUEST THE MOTION AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED OR MAKE CHANGES IF NECESSARY. MOTION FOR A VOTE. ANYONE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE LAND USE MAP AS PRESENTED. SECOND. I SECOND THE MOTION. LET'S CALL FOR A VOTE. WHO'S FOR A. ALL RIGHT.DISAGREE. NOPE. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. VOTE. MOTION PASSED. FIVE TO NOTHING. 12366 6 TO 9.
SIX TO NOTHING. ALL RIGHT. NEXT AGENDA. WE ARE CONSIDERATION DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DEVELOP WATER AND SEWAGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NEEDS. SO THIS ITEM IS BASED ON THE LAND USE ASSUMPTION MAP YOU JUST SAW. AND THE ACTUAL NEEDS THAT THE CITY HAS TODAY. WHAT'S IN YOUR BACKUP IS THE WATER DISTRIBUTION MAP AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 2023. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THESE TO DETERMINE ESSENTIALLY WHAT PROJECTS YOU WOULD DEEM THE MOST CRITICAL. AND PAULINE CAN CERTAINLY DIVE MORE SO INTO THE ENGINEERING BEHIND THIS. SO YOUR $0.02 HERE. YEAH. THIS IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE PLAN. BUT IT WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED ESPECIALLY TO EXTEND WATER TO THE EAST BECAUSE THERE ARE. DEVELOPERS AND THE CITY PROPERTY THAT NEED THAT WANT CITY WATER. AND WATER DOES NOT GO OUT THAT FAR. SO THAT WILL BE ONE UPDATE TO GO FROM W 17 TO THE EAST. HOW FAR EAST? IT DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY THESE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN. BUT I DO KNOW THE CITY AT LEAST WANTS TO EXTEND IT TO THEIR PROPERTY AT THIS POINT. SO THERE IS A DIFFERENT PLAN. IT'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, BUT IT IS FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS FOR THE CITY. SO THERE ARE UPDATES SHOWING SOME OF THESE WATER LINE EXTENSIONS. BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST WHAT'S EXISTING IN. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIGURE OUT, OKAY, HOW FAR EAST DO WE NEED TO GO? AND WE NEED TO UPDATE THE MAPS EAST OF 17. YEAH. SPECIFICALLY THE YEAH. TO THE EAST THAT WOULD GO TO EAST DEVELOPMENT NUMBER ONE, WHERE WE CURRENTLY HOST LIKE 4TH OF JULY AND EVENTS LIKE THAT. YEAH, THAT'S THE CITY PROPERTY. SO RIGHT NOW IT BASICALLY STOPS AT THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY LINE FOR MAINER HEIGHTS OR CAROLYN. OKAY, OUT TO THE EAST. AND SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE. WHAT WE NEED TO ADD BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN REQUESTED IS TO EXTEND IT FURTHER TO THE EAST. AND I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE WATER. THE MAIN THING IS GETTING IT FURTHER TO THE EAST, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT CITY WATER AND THE WATER JUST DOESN'T GO TO THE EAST. SO IT WOULD BE DEFINITELY BE ADDING IN AN EXTENSION TO THE EAST AND THE EXTENSION NORTH ON 973. YEAH. AND THEN NORTH TO 973 BECAUSE THERE ARE THOSE ARE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS REQUESTED CITY WATER AS WELL. IS THAT 32 AND 31 THAT YOU'RE. YEAH. SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE, I GUESS STRAIGHT UP WHERE IT'S GOT W 33 AND SIP ONE. SO GO FROM SIP ONE TO THE NORTH. AND I CAN TELL YOU W 33 IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. AND THAT IS A WATER BOOSTER PUMP STATION. AND SO THE OTHER PART IS ONCE WE GET THAT FIGURED OUT THEN IT'S THE COST. I HANDLE THE COST, YOU KNOW, TO DO IT. AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IT JUST SHOWS YOU. AND WHAT THIS DOES IS WE TRACK WHAT THE IMPROVEMENT WAS, WHAT YEAR IS CONSTRUCTED, HOW MUCH THE CITY SPENT, HOW IT WAS FINANCED, WE FIGURED OUT. SO THIS WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE NEW NUMBERS BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN FINISHED, LIKE W 14, THE GREG WIENER GROUND STORAGE TANK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN IT. DRIVING BY ON 290 F OF GREG
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WIENER ACROSS FROM THE SCHOOLS. THERE'S THOSE TWO BIG TANKS THAT WAS JUST FINISHED IN NOVEMBER. AND THEN 973 WATER LINE AND THE 290 WATER LINE. BOTH OF THOSE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS I'VE GOT ACTUAL COSTS NOW BECAUSE THE PROJECTS ARE DONE, AND I WOULD PUT THEM IN THERE AND UPDATE IT. AND YOU TAKE THESE COSTS AND YOU TAKE THE TOTAL. AND AND LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE TO ADD IN THE NEW PROJECTS THAT AREN'T IN HERE, LIKE THE WATER LINE EXTENSIONS. AND YOU TAKE THOSE PROJECTS AND YOU ADD THEM UP, AND THEN YOU DIVIDE IT BY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOUISE. AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET YOUR IMPACT FEE. BUT THE MAIN THING FOR THIS ONE IS WE GOT TO UPDATE THE MAP AND UPDATE THE COSTS AT THIS POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE CORRECT NUMBERS IN THERE, BECAUSE THAT DOES AFFECT WHAT THE FEE IS WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT. WHEN YOU SEND A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. AND SO I GUESS THIS WAS JUST BRIEFLY TO KIND OF LET YOU ALL LOOK AT THE MAP. AND THEN I GUESS FOR THE NEXT MEETING, HAVE THE UPDATES ON THERE WITH UPDATED COSTS. IS THAT WHAT'S OKAY? AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR FOR WASTEWATER. WASTEWATER. I DON'T THINK THERE'S THAT MANY PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE UPDATING THE COSTS UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE HEARD SOMETHING. OH YEAH. GOING BACK TO WATER, THE CITY IS GOING TO NEED TO WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH AN ESTIMATE. THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO RESEARCH GETTING ADDITIONAL WATER SOURCES. RIGHT NOW, THE CITY GETS WATER FROM EPCOR AND SOME CITY WELLS. BUT WITH THE GROWTH, THAT WATER THAT THE CITY IS EITHER GETTING NOW OR WILL GET IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, THE CITY'S STILL GOING TO NEED MORE WATER, SO WE WILL BE ADDING A COST IN THERE FOR THE CITY TO START INVESTIGATIONS ON ANOTHER WATER SOURCE, WHETHER IT'S CONSTRUCTING INFRASTRUCTURE, I CAN TELL YOU THE EPCOR WATER COMES FROM ALMOST 50 MILES AWAY.THERE'S A MAIN THERE'S TWO MAIN LINES THAT COME INTO THE CITY, AND THE CITY HAS THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE DRILLING THEIR OWN WELLS. SO WE YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR THAT. SO WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS WHEN PEOPLE PAY IMPACT FEES, IT WOULD HELP COVER THE COST TO STUDY THAT. SO THE CITY CAN COME UP WITH AN ADDITIONAL WATER SOURCE, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE PRETTY CRITICAL. AND THAT I WOULDN'T SAY THAT'S IN TEN YEARS. THAT'S PROBABLY 3 TO 5 YEARS AT THIS POINT. IF IF STUFF COMES IN, THAT'S ESTIMATED TO COME IN. SO HOW DO THESE TWO MAPS, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE EXISTING PROJECTS, I ASSUME FROM LAST YEAR FOR WELL, VERSUS WHAT'S ON YOUR LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS MAP NOW. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THESE MAPS HAVE NOT BEEN CONSTRUCTED YET BECAUSE THE CITY HAS NOT FUNDED THEM. AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE SHOW, OKAY, WE NEED THIS PROJECT FOR THIS. AND, AND WE JUST LIST THEM ALL HOW MUCH WE ESTIMATE IT'S GOING TO COST.
AND THE COST IS BASED ON HOW THEY'RE FUNDED. SOMETIMES THEY'RE PARTIALLY DEVELOPER FUNDED. SOMETIMES THE CITY USES LIKE SEOS AND THEY'LL PAY THEM OFF OVER SO MANY YEARS. AND SO BASICALLY THIS IS SO WE LOOK AT IT AS SOMEBODY COMES IN LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THERE'S NO WATER OR WASTEWATER THERE. SO THIS LINE NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED OR UPSIZED OR WHATEVER TO SERVE THEM. AND SO THAT GETS ADDED ON. AND SO IT COULD BASICALLY BE SHOWN ON THIS MAP AND USE IN THE CALCULATIONS TO CALCULATE THE IMPACT FEES. SO SO THERE IS STUFF ON HERE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET. THIS IS JUST WHAT'S BEEN ON THE, THE, THE PLAN FOR THE PAST. WELL, SOME OF THE STUFF HAS BEEN ON THERE MORE THAN FIVE YEARS. YEAH. AND SO ALL WE DO IS WE GO IN THERE, UPDATE IT STAYS ON THERE, BUT THE COSTS GET UPDATED IF THEY GET FINISHED. AND SO WE DO UPDATE THAT. SO HOW DO WE UPDATE THE PROJECTS LIST. SO THAT MORE CLEARLY MIRRORS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE PIPELINE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE FUTURE ASSUMPTIONS MAP. WELL THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS FOR. SO YOU LOOK AT THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS, FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHEN DO WE THINK THIS IS COMING IN? WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED? TO SERVE THESE FUTURE? THE THE ISSUE IS SOME OF THE STUFF. YEAH, WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM, BUT IT MAY BE FIVE YEARS. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IS, OKAY, WHAT DO WE NEED MORE THAN LIKELY IN THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS
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VERSUS THE WHOLE TEN YEARS. AND IT'S REALLY SOMETIMES IT CAN BE A GUESSING GAME BECAUSE WE UPDATED IT ONE YEAR AND WE HAD TO COME BACK THE FOLLOWING YEAR BECAUSE SOME STUFF CAME IN THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WASN'T EXPECTED. BECAUSE THE OTHER THING IS YOU CAN'T SIT THERE AND SHOW PROJECTS JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LAND USE ASSUMPTION ON THE MAP. IF YOU KNOW THAT LAND USE IS, IS WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN TEN YEARS, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S FORESEEN. THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED. THE LAND USE MAP DOESN'T HAVE LIKE A SET TIME FRAME FOR ANY OF THAT STUFF TO BE DEVELOPED. IT'S JUST WHAT RIGHT NOW, IT'S EITHER WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED, WHAT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OR YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE KNOW IS, YOU KNOW, OR, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT BEFORE, LIKE WHAT THE CITY BASED ON ZONING AND WHATNOT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE LAND USE MAP IS, BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SET YEAR TERM BECAUSE WE USED TO DO IT WHERE WE WOULD BE LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S THIS MANY RIGHT NOW AND THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THIS MANY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK JUSTIN UPDATED ANY OF THAT, DID HE? BUT IT'S ALL IT'S IT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE. SO YOU WOULD ESTIMATE, OKAY, IF WE HAVE A 7% GROWTH RATE AND THIS GETS DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO EXTEND SERVICE TO THEM? YEAH. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS FOR LIKE THE LAND IN PROGRESS DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH OF THE PROJECTS ON THE LIST ARE TO SERVE THOSE VERSUS OTHERS THAT ARE JUST KIND OF BEEN SITTING OUT THERE FOR A WHILE? AND HOW CRITICAL ARE SOME OF THESE OTHERS? I MEAN, I GUESS WE JUST NEED SOME INFORMATION ON SOME OF IT TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO PRIORITIZE AND THINK THROUGH. WELL, MOST OF THE ONES THAT ARE IN DEVELOPMENT NOW THAT WE KNOW ABOUT, THERE'S ALREADY PLANS IN PLACE TO EXTEND SERVICES TO THEM. OKAY. AND THOSE ARE ON THE LIST. THE CIP LIST ARE NOT ON THE LIST. THOSE ARE JUST THOSE ARE THE THEY'RE ON THE LIST. LIKE I SAID, EXCEPT FOR WHAT CAME IN IN, YOU KNOW, THE PAST THREE YEARS WAS THE CITY PURCHASED SOME LAND OUT IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE CITY THAT RIGHT NOW HAS ONE WATER METER ON A SMALL ONE FOR THE WASTEWATER PLANT, AND THAT THAT ONE WASN'T INCLUDED. BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THE LAST UPDATE, NOBODY WAS COMING IN IN THAT PART OF THE CITY. THE CITY DIDN'T OWN THAT PROPERTY. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT WAS. IT MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE LAND USE MAP BACK IN 2023, IF I MAY, AND I THINK I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION HERE. SO THE LAND USE ASSUMPTION MAP GIVES US GUIDELINES TO HOW WE PLAN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THEN IN CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE WITH DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS OR INTERESTED PARTIES, THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF DICTATE WHAT PROJECTS NEED TO GO IN WHEN. SO ANYTHING THAT'S PLANNED OR IN PROGRESS, WE'VE LIKELY ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND THROUGH DIFFERENT MECHANISMS AND NEGOTIATIONS, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THOSE PROJECTS ON THE CIP INTO MOTION SO THAT THEY CAN ADEQUATELY BE SERVED. ANY OTHER PROJECTS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE ACTIVELY LOOKING TO GO THERE YET HAVEN'T BEEN PRIORITIZED AS MUCH, SO THE PLANNED OR IN PROGRESS ARE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR SOMEWHERE. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THEY'RE THEY'RE IN A PROCESS. OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONTEMPLATE ON A LIST OF UPCOMING PROJECTS? THAT IS A COMPLEX QUESTION, BECAUSE IT DOES ALSO BOIL DOWN TO SOME OF THEM ARE ON HERE. SOME OF THEM ARE FUTURE ONES THAT WE'RE TALKING WITH RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED IN THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE THEM, AND IF WE FEEL COMFORTABLE ADDING THEM NOW, THEN WE WILL ADD THEM NOW BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU TO THE EAST, IT'S NOT JUST EXTENDING A WATER LINE. WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS AND SOME OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED, BECAUSE SOME OF IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL OF INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE TO CONSTRUCT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE THE WATER LINE EXTENSION THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PLANNING ON. 973. WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THAT TO A PROPERTY THAT'S JUST NORTHEAST OF 973, BUT WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO START. SO WE HAVE THAT AND WE'RE PLANNING WE'RE ALREADY ADDING IT TO OUR CIP. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN IT NEEDS TO START CONSTRUCTION DUE TO FUNDING QUESTIONS ON BOTH SIDES.SO SO THEN WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? IS IT TO PUT TOGETHER THIS INFORMATION, UNDERSTAND BASED UPON WHAT'S IN THE LAND USE MODEL AND WHAT'S LEFT THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET FOR CURRENT AND PROGRESS? YES IT WOULD WHAT THE LIST IS AND WHAT THE PRICE WOULD BE. AND THEN PRIORITIZE BASED UPON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT WHERE THESE PROJECTS ARE AND HOW CERTAIN WE ARE AND HOW CRITICAL THEY ARE. YES. OKAY. AND THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE TODAY. NO, THIS WAS JUST TO LET Y'ALL SEE WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY. BECAUSE IF YOU PULL UP THE
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IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY ON THE CITY WEBSITE, YOU WILL SEE THESE MAPS AND TABLES BECAUSE THAT IS YOU SHOULD HAVE BASICALLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL, SIGNED BY THE MAYOR. AND THAT'S WHAT IS FOLLOWED CURRENTLY. SO IT WAS JUST TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO Y'ALL SO Y'ALL CAN GET FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. YEAH. THERE'S NOTHING THEY WERE TAKEN OUT. WE WE DO HAVE THEM. WE'LL PUT THEM BACK IN THERE FOR YOU NEXT TIME. SORRY, I'VE GOT THEM ON MY PHONE TOO, OKAY, I GOT YOU. I'M WITH YOU NOW. YEAH. SO AT THE NEXT MEETING, YOU'LL SEE AN UPDATED MAP, UPDATED LIST OF PROJECTS, AND THEY'LL BE UPDATED DATES OF WHEN YOU KNOW, THE YEAR WILL BE EITHER WHEN IT WAS COMPLETED OR WHEN WE FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED BECAUSE THAT WAS THE OTHER THAT'S THE OTHER ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE ANYTHING WE NEED TO APPROVE ANYTHING OR THERE'S JUST NO ACTION ON THIS? OKAY.ALL RIGHT. NO ACTION FOR THIS AGENDA. OUR AGENDA. NEXT AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION. DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION TO REVIEW PROPOSED ROADWAY IMPACT SERVICE AREA. IMPACT FEE. SERVICE AREA.
YEAH. I GUESS YOU CAN GO TO THE THE MAP. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES. AND THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN ROADWAY WATER AND WASTEWATER.
YOU PAY THE FEES AND THEY CAN BE USED FOR IMPROVEMENTS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. THE CITY HAS TO BE SPLIT UP INTO DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS. AND SO IF A DEVELOPER.
SO THERE'S THREE SERVICE AREAS THAT WILL COME UP WITH AT THE LAST WITH THE LAST ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND SO IF A DEVELOPER, SAY IN THE BLUE AREA PAYS ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, THEN THOSE FEES CAN ONLY BE USED IN THAT SERVICE AREA. THAT'S WHY IT'S SPLIT OUT IN THE THREE DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS. AND I THINK THIS ITEM IS DO YOU WANT TO MODIFY THE SERVICE AREAS? THE SERVICE AREAS ARE LIMITED TO SO MANY MILES LIKE NORTH AND SOUTH. AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT MAP BACK IN 2023. BUT THAT ONE, I GUESS FOR THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, THOUGH, WE CAN'T SHOW ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO THAT'S THE OTHER DIFFERENCE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER. YOU CAN KIND OF SHOW OKAY. YEAH. SO WE, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE DEVELOPED AND THEY NEED THIS FOR ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. IT'S ONLY ITEMS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN CITY LIMITS. AND IT CANNOT INCLUDE ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO TXDOT OR TRAVIS COUNTY ROADS.
WHAT IS THE DOTTED RED LINE. AND THEN THE SOLID RED LINE. OH SORRY. THE DOTTED RED LINES I BELIEVE, ARE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. RIGHT, SCOTT? YEAH, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. YEAH. BECAUSE SO YEAH, THERE'S THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND THEN YEAH, LIKE GREG, GREG LANE UP THERE THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE THERE'S SOME PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO EXPAND THAT ROAD AND ADD TURN LANES. AND SO YEAH, SO THAT'S BASED ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. THAT'S PROPOSED WORK. THE DOTTED LINES FROM THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
OKAY. YES. AND THEN THE SOLID RED LINE UP OFF GREG LANE. OH YEAH. YEAH. THAT SOLID RED LINE SHOULD TECHNICALLY BE DASHED. I DIDN'T DO THE EXHIBIT THAT. SCOTT, YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT.
WASN'T ME. YEAH, YEAH, IT WASN'T US. YEAH, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT FOR US. AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, IT SHOWS YOU THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. AND THAT'S WHERE THE DASHED LINES CAME FROM. AND SO THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND I THINK THE NEXT SLIDES ARE JUST SHOWING YOU THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF ROADWAYS. AND RIGHT OF WAYS BASED ON WHAT GETS DEVELOPED. AND SO I THINK THIS ITEM WAS JUST MORE. TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THAT FIRST MAP, THE SERVICE AREA. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, OR IF I GUESS THEY NEED TO APPROVE THE SERVICE AREA MAP. WELL, OH, THE NEXT MEETING. SO THIS IS JUST GETTING Y'ALL
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FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO ARE THE FEES DIFFERENT IN EACH SERVICE AREA? YES. IF YOU GO, I THINK IT'S THE NEXT ITEM. IT SHOWS YOU HOW STUFF IS BROKEN OUT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ON FIVE, RIGHT? SO. OH THAT'S WHEN THE NEXT YEAH, THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE NEXT ITEM. IT SHOWS YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS.IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH FIVE, WE CAN MOVE ON TO SIX. OKAY, SO GOING UP TO THAT CHART. YEAH.
FROM THIS AGENDA. SO THE SOLID AND THE DOTTED LINE IS SAME, RIGHT? THE SOLID RED LINE IS WHAT'S BEING CURRENTLY BEING DONE NOW, RIGHT. AND THE DOTTED IS PROPOSED. SOLID IS A MAJOR ARTERY. AND YEAH, FOR THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IT'S DIFFERENT. SOMEBODY ELSE CAME UP WITH THAT EXHIBIT AND THAT ONE GOT DIFFERENT. YOU'RE CORRECT. THE SOLID IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL. AND DOTTED IS A PROPOSED MAJOR ARTERIAL. YEAH. WOULD YOU HAVE HOW WOULD THIS ACCOUNT FOR IF IF TXDOT OR THE COUNTY TURNED THE ROAD OVER TO THE CITY. THEN THAT ROAD WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED. HERE IS THE ABOUT ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. YOU CAN'T USE IT TO IMPROVE EXISTING ROADS UNLESS YOU'RE ADDING LANES OR TURN LANES OR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S REQUIRED BY GROWTH. SO WE TRY NOT TO TAKE ROADS OVER FROM THE COUNTY, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. BUT YEAH. AND SO BASICALLY THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE ADDED IN HERE IF IMPROVEMENTS WERE NEEDED BASED ON GROWTH, WHETHER IT BE LIKE A TURN LANE OR WIDENING FROM TWO LANES TO FIVE OR SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE ADDED IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY ROADS RIGHT NOW THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO GET FROM THE COUNTY AT THIS TIME.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE MOVE ON. SINCE THIS IS NOT A MOTION OR VOTE, IT ITEMS, RIGHT? CORRECT. IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR OTHER COMMENTS, IT WAS JUST A.
LIKE I SAID AT THE NEXT MEETING, I'LL. I'LL HAVE A BIG MAP AGAIN. OKAY. AND Y'ALL CAN LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEN Y'ALL CAN DECIDE IF WE WANT TO MODIFY ANY OF THE AREAS. HOW OLD WAS THIS MAP CURRENTLY? IS THAT JUST WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS? SO YEAH, THE THIS ONE AND THE OKAY. YEAH. THIS ONE WAS DONE IN 2020 WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE, THE OTHER EXHIBIT THAT SHOWED THAT THAT ONE, THAT ONE WAS DONE IN 2023 BY THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT WAS JUST SHOWING IS THE SERVICE AREAS, WHAT ROADS ARE TEXDOT? WHAT ARE COUNTY, WHAT ARE MINOR ROADS AND THE FUTURE ROADS PROPOSED WITH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN? WOULD THERE BE A LOT OF CHANGES WITHIN THE NEXT UPDATE? NOT FOR ANY OF THAT THAT I KNOW OF. NONE OF THAT'S CHANGED. OKAY. ANY MORE COMMENTS? WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA.
CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ROADWAY IMPACT FEE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. SO THE FIRST MAP, I GUESS YOU CAN GO THERE. THIS JUST SHOWS ALL THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISIONS. AND SO IT JUST BROKE IT DOWN SHOWING WHAT SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED AND WHAT SERVICE AREA. AND THAT WAS JUST TO SHOW YOU WHERE EVERYTHING'S LOCATED. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY.
ANYTHING NEW THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED AT THIS POINT LOOKING AT IT. SCOTT OR MICHAEL, DO Y'ALL KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYTHING'S MISSING AT THIS POINT? YEAH, WE WE WILL HAVE TO UPDATE IT WITH MINOR TOWN CENTER, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED CITY HALL AND LIBRARY.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY SUBDIVISIONS OTHER THAN WE'LL
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HAVE TO UPDATE IT BECAUSE MANOR HEIGHTS, THERE'S MORE HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED THAN WHAT SHOWED.SO WE WILL MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE PHASE ONE OF OKRA, PHASE ONE OF MONARCH RANCH, PHASE ONE OF NEW HAVEN AND PHASE ONE OF MUSTANG VALLEY HAVE ALL BEEN ACCEPTED. SO THE ROADWAYS WILL BE UPDATED TO SHOW. THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. SO Y'ALL CAN KIND OF SEE HOW MANY MILES WERE ADDED IN FOR THOSE.
AND THEN SO WHAT WE DID WITH THE, THE LAST ROUND WITH THE COMMITTEE IS WE, THERE'S DIFFERENT PROJECT LOCATION BASED ON THE SERVICE AREA. SO IF YOU SEE LIKE 2-4, WELL, THAT'S SERVICE AREA TWO PROPOSED PROJECT NUMBER FOUR. AND SO WE JUST WENT THROUGH AND MARKED IT UP AND BASICALLY LISTED ALL THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS THAT COULD BE MADE AND CAN BE USED TO CALCULATE THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. AND THEN OH MY GOSH, I CANNOT READ THAT. AND THE NEXT ONE IS A TABLE. SO WHAT WE DID. YEAH. FOR EACH SERVICE AREA WE DID THE PROJECTS. SO THERE'S THE PROJECT NUMBER. WHAT THE ROAD CAN BE IMPROVED, WHAT THE PROJECT IS. SOME OF THE ROADS ARE PARTIALLY IN ONE SERVICE AREA AND OTHER ONES. SO THERE'S A PERCENTAGE OF SAY, YOU KNOW, 60% OF THIS ROAD IS IN THIS ONE AND 40S AND THE OTHER ONE. AND THEN WE DID AN ESTIMATED COST OF WHAT AT THE TIME IN 2023, IT WAS GOING TO COST TO MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED AS WELL. BECAUSE STUFF HAS INCREASED IN COST.
AND THEN BASICALLY, IF IT WAS EITHER ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN OR IF IT WAS WITH THE SUBDIVISION TIA, WE LISTED IT THERE AND THEN WE ADDED NOTES. AND LIKE I SAID, THE NOTE SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, 40%, I THINK IT SAYS 40 IS IN THIS ONE. AND THEN THE OTHER 60 IS IN SERVICE AREA TWO. AND SO WE JUST, WE DID THAT FOR EACH SERVICE AREA. THERE'S A LIST OF PROJECTS, AND THERE'S A MAP SHOWING THE PROPOSED PROJECTS. AND SO LOOKS AT EACH ONE AND IT TELLS YOU WHAT THE IMPROVEMENT IS. AND THEN LIKE THE IMPROVEMENTS EITHER CAME FROM A TIA THAT WAS SUBMITTED OR THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S LISTED. SO IF IF YOU GO TO SERVICE AREA TWO, YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ IT. SO SERVICE AREA TWO THERE'S 11 PROJECTS.
AND WE JUST COMBINED THE TOTAL FOR THE ESTIMATED COST. AND SO IT'S THE SAME. THAT'S THE SAME PROCESS AS WATER AND WASTEWATER WHERE YOU COME UP WITH AN ESTIMATE. AND, AND THOSE ESTIMATES EITHER WERE ESTIMATED BASED ON THE TIA THAT WAS PROVIDED OR BY GBA MAKING CALCULATIONS, YOU KNOW, BASED ON PREVIOUS PROJECTS, WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR THE INSTALLATION.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE UPDATED EXHIBITS WITH COSTS AND EVERYTHING AT THE NEXT MEETING.
THIS WAS JUST TO GET YOU FAMILIAR WITH. AN OVERALL VIEW OF HOW THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES WORK. HOW ACCURATE IS THE SERVICE AREA? THE PERCENTAGE FOR THE. BASICALLY WE TOOK, OKAY, THIS ROAD IS PROPOSED TO BE X LINEAR FEET AND WE USE THE BOUNDARY. WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL THAT'S THIS MANY LINEAR FEET AND THIS ONE'S THIS ONE. WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE? SO THIS NEED TO BE UPDATED AS WELL. THE TABLE JUST BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE COMPLETE, THE COST WILL BE THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD UPDATE THE PERCENTAGE IN THE SERVICE AREA IS IF Y'ALL DECIDE TO MODIFY THE SERVICE AREAS. IF WE TRY TO BREAK THE SERVICE AREAS UP EQUALLY. SO IT WOULD BE HOPEFULLY EVERYONE, NO MATTER WHERE THEY DEVELOPED ANYTHING, WOULD HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME COST. WE WERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOING IT, SOME OF THEM WERE DOUBLE TO DEVELOP IN ONE SERVICE AREA VERSUS A DIFFERENT ONE. AND SO WE TRIED TO BREAK IT UP EVENLY. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAD THE UNFORTUNATE THING TO BE IN SERVICE AREA TWO OR SOMETHING, THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY MORE BECAUSE THEY WERE IN SERVICE AREA TWO, WE WERE TRYING TO ALLOCATE IT TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR EVERYBODY, NO MATTER WHAT AREA YOU WERE IN, THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE GOAL OF THE
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COMMITTEE THEN. AND THAT IS UP TO Y'ALL IF Y'ALL WANT TO MODIFY THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT TO WHERE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS HINDER DEVELOPMENT IN ONE SERVICE AREA BY MAKING IT, YOU KNOW, HIGHER COST THAN IF THEY WANT TO GO DOWN TO AREA 2 OR 3. AND BASED UPON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS, PROJECTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. DOES THAT STILL WORK? YOU THINK THOSE SERVICE AREAS, I MEAN, DOES THAT STILL TRACK ROUGHLY? I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN NECESSARILY. BUT YES, BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S SET UP RIGHT NOW WITH THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS, IT IS BASED ON EITHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY STARTED CONSTRUCTION. I GUESS FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE ALL UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW. SO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE REQUIRED. AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY TRIPS PER DAY YOU HAVE, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC ON THIS ROAD BY X NUMBER OF CARS. THESE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE TO DO. AND SO THAT'S WHAT IT, THAT'S WHAT WE MOST OF THE PROJECTS CAME FROM THAT. AND THEN THERE WERE A FEW THAT CAME FROM THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT WAS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO WHAT THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IS, OKAY, SOMEBODY COMES IN, THEY PAY IT, AND THEN HOPEFULLY THE CITY GETS ENOUGH MONEY FROM DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS COMING IN TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S THE GOAL. OKAY. SO THERE HAVEN'T BEEN NEW TIAS AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS ADDED TO THE LIST THAT AREN'T CONTEMPLATED IN THAT IN THESE SERVICE AREAS AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE, I GUESS THERE'S YOU'RE JUST DOING YOUR BEST GUESS. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE YOU KNOW.SO THERE WILL BE UPDATES FOR NEXT WEEK FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AS WELL. YES. SO THERE'S NO IN TWO WEEKS. YEAH. APPROVAL OR REQUEST MOTION FOR THIS. YEAH. WE'LL HAVE SOME BIG MAPS FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK AT. OKAY, I APOLOGIZE, I WAS OUT ON VACATION AND THAT DID NOT GET RELAYED TO. SOMEBODY WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE THOSE MAPS. SO YEAH, SO WE'LL HAVE BIGGER PRINTOUTS SO IT'S EASIER TO READ. I KNOW SOME OF THIS STUFF IS HARD TO READ, BUT YEAH, WE'LL BASICALLY WE'LL HAVE WATER WASTEWATER UPDATES AND THE ROADWAY UPDATES. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN BRING A BIG PRINTOUT OF THE LAND USE MAP IF Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
YEAH, IF WE CAN. OKAY. YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO LIKE AN OVERLAY OF A LAND USE OVER. I THINK. SO WHAT WE'LL TALK TO THE PERSON THAT DOES THAT FOR US. WERE YOU TALKING LIKE AN OVERLAY OF THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS MAP WITH THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEE SERVICE AREAS, THE BASICALLY THE LAND USE MAP WITH ALL THREE WATER WASTEWATER IF POSSIBLE. I MEAN, IT'S JUST EASIER TO KIND OF TELL. WE WILL CERTAINLY. YEAH, IT SHOULD BE. I THINK WE'LL SEE WITHIN THE NEXT MEETING. YEAH.
SINCE THE LAYERS ARE ALREADY MADE, COMBINING THEM SHOULDN'T BE PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING, BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR GIS. YEAH, WE CAN ASK. YEAH. I DON'T DO GIS, BUT WE CAN ASK HIM AND SEE. AND IT MAY BE WHERE HE CAN DO IT, BUT IT MAY BE LIKE OVERLAY IT ONE FOR ONE FOR WATER, ONE FOR IT WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO BE ALL THREE BECAUSE IT WOULD IT WOULD BE TOO CLUTTERED TO HAVE EVERYTHING ON. SO YEAH, YEAH, WE CAN REACH OUT AND CHECK WITH HIM. THANK YOU. TIME IS NOW 713. THE
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